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Building Event Prediction Contest

Posted: May 13th, 2018, 9:21 am
by EastStroudsburg13
While we're waiting for the full Prediction Contest to open, here's a new little thing I'm trying out. Building events get a lot of scrutiny because of how time-intensive and spectator-friendly they are, as evidenced by the activity levels in their respective subforums. Therefore, here's a chance to allow users to show off a deeper knowledge of the national scene in these events beyond picking just one team.

Rules are located within the form. There is only one form, but if you only want to fill out one of the two divisions, you can do that! The form will guide you through the process. I'll try to set up a Google Sheet where the teams being picked can be monitored.

Link to Building Event Prediction Contest

Have fun and happy picking!

EDIT: Current picks

Re: Building Event Prediction Contest

Posted: May 13th, 2018, 10:12 am
by Unome
I got so excited thinking this would be score predictions...

Re: Building Event Prediction Contest

Posted: May 13th, 2018, 10:26 am
by EastStroudsburg13
Yeah I was thinking that too but wasn't sure how quickly I'd be able to get ahold of the winning scores for all the events. Perhaps down the road someone can set that up. ;)

Re: Building Event Prediction Contest

Posted: May 13th, 2018, 12:16 pm
by John Richardsim
Re-submitting is allowed, correct?

Re: Building Event Prediction Contest

Posted: May 13th, 2018, 2:31 pm
by daydreamer0023
About when will the spreadsheet be set up?

Re: Building Event Prediction Contest

Posted: May 13th, 2018, 6:33 pm
by EastStroudsburg13
Probably tomorrow. And resubmitting is allowed, but at some point I will enable editing submissions to make it easier.

Re: Building Event Prediction Contest

Posted: May 14th, 2018, 5:46 am
by pb5754[]
So is the tiebreaker like the sum of the overall scores for the top two teams in Division C or Division B??

Re: Building Event Prediction Contest

Posted: May 14th, 2018, 4:47 pm
by sciolyperson1
Any updates on the spreadsheet?

Re: Building Event Prediction Contest

Posted: May 15th, 2018, 8:30 am
by EastStroudsburg13
Link to current picks

The spreadsheet is set up so that each pick is weighted the same, whether they were picked first or sixth. If there is interest in weighting this so that picks for first are weighted more, let me know.

Re: Building Event Prediction Contest

Posted: May 15th, 2018, 1:41 pm
by Kyanite
EastStroudsburg13 wrote:Link to current picks

The spreadsheet is set up so that each pick is weighted the same, whether they were picked first or sixth. If there is interest in weighting this so that picks for first are weighted more, let me know.


It would be interesting if someone held an anonymous poll where everyone put their PR for their build scores and then each team is ranked against each other in placing but their scores arent shown.

Re: Building Event Prediction Contest

Posted: May 15th, 2018, 1:48 pm
by sciolyperson1
People could put in fake scores.
Also, let's say I do Battery, what score can you put in? Like if you practice BB, you've probably gotten within 1 cm before, and you don't have any way of knowing what your best time is without a photogate system.

Re: Building Event Prediction Contest

Posted: May 15th, 2018, 1:54 pm
by Kyanite
sciolyperson1 wrote:People could put in fake scores.
Also, let's say I do Battery, what score can you put in? Like if you practice BB, you've probably gotten within 1 cm before, and you don't have any way of knowing what your best time is without a photogate system.


True, and I would say put in any times or score from tournaments that you know are accurate, but its all trivial. Sure you could put in a fake score but then you will never know how you stack up against the other teams. Not to mention the idea is all for fun builds can go all over the place in competition at nationals.

Re: Building Event Prediction Contest

Posted: May 15th, 2018, 2:19 pm
by shrewdPanther46
Kyanite wrote:
sciolyperson1 wrote:People could put in fake scores.
Also, let's say I do Battery, what score can you put in? Like if you practice BB, you've probably gotten within 1 cm before, and you don't have any way of knowing what your best time is without a photogate system.


True, and I would say put in any times or score from tournaments that you know are accurate, but its all trivial. Sure you could put in a fake score but then you will never know how you stack up against the other teams. Not to mention the idea is all for fun builds can go all over the place in competition at nationals.


Well, for BB, its all about consistency. It really doesnt matter if you got on the dot a bunch of times, its about consistency, which is what the discussion in the nats thread is all about. Regarding time, your time really shouldn't vary beyond .1-.2 seconds w/ different braking distances. There is no need for a super accurate measurement... just something in the ballpark

Re: Building Event Prediction Contest

Posted: May 15th, 2018, 2:20 pm
by sciolyperson1
Everyone's gonna put 3 seconds and someone will put 2.99 seconds and beat whoever put 3 seconds...

Re: Building Event Prediction Contest

Posted: May 15th, 2018, 2:22 pm
by shrewdPanther46
i was talking about like constructive scores discussions on the nats thread under buggy, not trivial competitions on some random google form xD

Plus, if people actually felt the need to beat other people in something like that, thats pretty sad.

EDIT: also a difference of <.1 seconds is basically negligible when comparing scores. Btw, I have also found that speeds tend to vary depending on floor surfaces. Probs more has to do w/acceleration and the variance in coef. of friction, but yea, just wanted to throw that out there.