Coin Flip Task

[ScottMaurer19]

Must the coin flip while airborne, or can we flip the coin and then have it go airborne before starting the next action?

Based on suggestions by Patrick Chalker at the coaches clinic you should be allowed to flip then quarter then have it go airborne (i.e. have quarter on end of lever heads up, lever flips completely over with quarter on end, quarter falls tails up)

[Ash123]

So just be clear a quarter flipping machine is okay?

[Ash123]

Tell me if you guys think this would work for a coin flipper:

I use a switch to turn on a dc motor that has a plank of wood connected to it. The coin is resting on the wood, so when the wood turns 180 degrees, the coin will fall.

What do you guys think? Does it meet the criteria of the action? And does anyone know how I could get the motor to stop without using battery a micro controller(I don’t have access to any)

[ScottMaurer19]

Tell me if you guys think this would work for a coin flipper:

I use a switch to turn on a dc motor that has a plank of wood connected to it. The coin is resting on the wood, so when the wood turns 180 degrees, the coin will fall.

What do you guys think? Does it meet the criteria of the action? And does anyone know how I could get the motor to stop without using battery a micro controller(I don’t have access to any)

As stated earlier, this would count according to the coaches clinic. You could put a limit switch to shut off the motor when the wood hits it.

[dmis]

What if I use a lever to force it downwards? Basically I'm using a third class lever where the coin is the load and having the lever rotate from horizontal to 135 degrees. So the coin is technically flipping sides while still in contact with the lever, but after the lever stops the coin is airborne before it hits the surface, which means it went from heads -> tails in the action while being airborne at some point...?

This is unofficial but Patrick Chalker (national ES) said that the above action is allowed at the coaches clinic. This was one of his recommendations if my coaches are to be trusted. Apparently the flip does not have to occur while the quarter is airborne.

@Chalker, it would be really great if we could get an official FAQ on this. I did exactly this and it wasn't accepted at Solon.

[ScottMaurer19]

What if I use a lever to force it downwards? Basically I'm using a third class lever where the coin is the load and having the lever rotate from horizontal to 135 degrees. So the coin is technically flipping sides while still in contact with the lever, but after the lever stops the coin is airborne before it hits the surface, which means it went from heads -> tails in the action while being airborne at some point...?

This is unofficial but Patrick Chalker (national ES) said that the above action is allowed at the coaches clinic. This was one of his recommendations if my coaches are to be trusted. Apparently the flip does not have to occur while the quarter is airborne.

@Chalker, it would be really great if we could get an official FAQ on this. I did exactly this and it wasn't accepted at Solon.

Patrick Chalker isn't the same chalker as the forums Chalker. I thought I heard the ES at Solon say in the morning that as long as the quarter was airborne somewhere in the flipping proccess then it would count but maybe this was wrong.

PS. I think my battery was undercharged yesterday so my mission didn't exactly work as normal and you may have beaten me.

[dmis]

This is unofficial but Patrick Chalker (national ES) said that the above action is allowed at the coaches clinic. This was one of his recommendations if my coaches are to be trusted. Apparently the flip does not have to occur while the quarter is airborne.

@Chalker, it would be really great if we could get an official FAQ on this. I did exactly this and it wasn't accepted at Solon.

Patrick Chalker isn't the same chalker as the forums Chalker. I thought I heard the ES at Solon say in the morning that as long as the quarter was airborne somewhere in the flipping proccess then it would count but maybe this was wrong.

PS. I think my battery was undercharged yesterday so my mission didn't exactly work as normal and you may have beaten me.

My quarter was pretty close to 90 degrees (tails up) when it went airborne, but it did definitely go airborne at some point. I basically flipped it and dropped it, which I can see is pretty ambiguous.

Thanks for the correction about Chalker.

I added a few tasks at 2 AM last night that I thought would be easy, but didn't turn out to be. Everything was sloppy so I had a few failures. I wound up with a touch and a boundary violation and two of my tasks didn't count. Assuming I can come up with a better coin flip task and you don't mind, I'm going to try to find you at Mentor; I'm very curious if you approached everything the same way I did. If I can't get my own coin flip working though, I'll wait to watch yours because I don't want to be unfairly influenced. Apparently there is some simple and reliable method that I can't seem to think of. I was told it does not have to stay tail up, which seems to be ambiguous also.

[ScottMaurer19]

@Chalker, it would be really great if we could get an official FAQ on this. I did exactly this and it wasn't accepted at Solon.

Patrick Chalker isn't the same chalker as the forums Chalker. I thought I heard the ES at Solon say in the morning that as long as the quarter was airborne somewhere in the flipping proccess then it would count but maybe this was wrong.

PS. I think my battery was undercharged yesterday so my mission didn't exactly work as normal and you may have beaten me.

My quarter was pretty close to 90 degrees (tails up) when it went airborne, but it did definitely go airborne at some point. I basically flipped it and dropped it, which I can see is pretty ambiguous.

Thanks for the correction about Chalker.

I added a few tasks at 2 AM last night that I thought would be easy, but didn't turn out to be. Everything was sloppy so I had a few failures. I wound up with a touch and a boundary violation and two of my tasks didn't count. Assuming I can come up with a better coin flip task and you don't mind, I'm going to try to find you at Mentor; I'm very curious if you approached everything the same way I did. If I can't get my own coin flip working though, I'll wait to watch yours because I don't want to be unfairly influenced. Apparently there is some simple and reliable method that I can't seem to think of. I was told it does not have to stay tail up, which seems to be ambiguous also.

Check your PMs.....

[terence.tan]

I got an idea which probably wont work but is worth a try:

WHat if you use like 10 quarters and push them off from a height. There practically a 100% chance that one of them will flip.

Im kindof a noob so would a supervisor actually score this?

I'd imagine that would be possible, but for the action to count, one of the quarters that flip would have to trigger the next action based on my reading of the rules.

Are you sure this will work

[dmis]

I got an idea which probably wont work but is worth a try:

WHat if you use like 10 quarters and push them off from a height. There practically a 100% chance that one of them will flip.

Im kindof a noob so would a supervisor actually score this?

I'd imagine that would be possible, but for the action to count, one of the quarters that flip would have to trigger the next action based on my reading of the rules.

Are you sure this will work

I'm not sure why it wouldn't, but I am not an ES.