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Re: Potions and Poisons B

Postby DragonTownEpic » December 20th, 2018, 9:08 pm

dvegadvol wrote:How are you all dealing with going from 10 pages to 2? We've gone to 5-point type. What other strategies? I've seen whole pages reduced greatly...

I've also found that creating your fact sheets in slides helps immensely, as it allows you to position text and images very close together.
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Re: Potions and Poisons B

Postby drcubbin » December 21st, 2018, 5:33 am

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dvegadvol wrote:How are you all dealing with going from 10 pages to 2? We've gone to 5-point type. What other strategies? I've seen whole pages reduced greatly...


Honestly, just memorize all the chemistry stuff. That's about it. 10 pages was MORE than enough for potions

Having been the ES for many of of the P&P events, memorizing (this used to be called "learning") is the best approach, and I believe this is the strategy behind reducing the # of pages. In addition, I do not see a lot of searching the notes during most events. I believe overstuffed binders are very overrated, but not overstuffed Christmas stockings!

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Re: Potions and Poisons B

Postby Galahad » December 21st, 2018, 10:53 am

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dvegadvol wrote:How are you all dealing with going from 10 pages to 2? We've gone to 5-point type. What other strategies? I've seen whole pages reduced greatly...


Honestly, just memorize all the chemistry stuff. That's about it. 10 pages was MORE than enough for potions

Having been the ES for many of of the P&P events, memorizing (this used to be called "learning") is the best approach, and I believe this is the strategy behind reducing the # of pages. In addition, I do not see a lot of searching the notes during most events. I believe overstuffed binders are very overrated, but not overstuffed Christmas stockings!


Ditto. I mean, it's called a study event, not a "search your notes" event. Having less note sheets is something I'll support because they actually force kids to study rather than just copy paste things onto a sheet. SciOly is less of learning and studying but rather working and making notes. The idea of "cheat sheets" takes away from the very goal and essence of the competition.

But binder events... ohhh god you need them.
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Re: Potions and Poisons B

Postby IvanGe » December 25th, 2018, 5:19 pm

I was just pouring over the list of Recommended Items on soinc, and I noticed that chromatography paper isn't on there. However, it says that chromatography is still a valid lab. Will the supervisor provide the chromatography paper? I remember doing a chromatography at a competition last year, but totally forgot if the supervisor provided. :/
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Re: Potions and Poisons B

Postby drcubbin » December 25th, 2018, 6:23 pm

IvanGe wrote:I was just pouring over the list of Recommended Items on soinc, and I noticed that chromatography paper isn't on there. However, it says that chromatography is still a valid lab. Will the supervisor provide the chromatography paper? I remember doing a chromatography at a competition last year, but totally forgot if the supervisor provided. :/

From the 2019 Manual 2.d. "Event supervisors will provide for each team: all required reagents and test solutions, any needed probes or
other instrumentation, chromatography materials, and the answer sheet." So yes, we've got you covered ;)

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Re: Potions and Poisons B

Postby gablo » January 2nd, 2019, 9:34 am

Could someone explain what exactly is needed to be known for the test? I honestly have little idea. It is my first year, thanks. And for the lab, I have no idea. thanks.

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Re: Potions and Poisons B

Postby dvegadvol » January 3rd, 2019, 11:15 am

Go to this website (https://www.soinc.org/) and sign up to get a copy of the Division B Rules Manual. That's a start!

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Re: Potions and Poisons B

Postby drcubbin » January 3rd, 2019, 5:33 pm

dvegadvol wrote:Go to this website (https://www.soinc.org/) and sign up to get a copy of the Division B Rules Manual. That's a start!

Exactly! The manual provides a guide for coaches and Event Supervisors to write tests. If it helps, we try to cover as much of the information that is possible. Make sure you are familiar with the "possible" labs they mention in the manual. Get going!

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Re: Potions and Poisons B

Postby gablo » January 7th, 2019, 1:35 pm

What are the possible labs? We cannot find any info on this.

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Re: Potions and Poisons B

Postby Crimesolver » January 8th, 2019, 12:23 pm

gablo wrote:What are the possible labs? We cannot find any info on this.

3.II.b states that one (or multiple) of the following labs will be given "chromatography, mixtures of reagents, separation of a mixture, serial
dilutions, determination of pH, and conductivity testing."
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Re: Potions and Poisons B

Postby anastasiiapopova » January 10th, 2019, 12:38 pm

dvegadvol wrote:How are you all dealing with going from 10 pages to 2? We've gone to 5-point type. What other strategies? I've seen whole pages reduced greatly...


well you should memorize the formulas and stuff, and molarity. Molarity is going to be a big thing at Harvard, actually. Keep it to the absolutely needed things, dont waste space on something you might not need. But just mostly memorize the chem stuff. keep to the basics of animals.

Tip: Publisher helps conserve a LOT of space.

Good luck! : )

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Re: Potions and Poisons B

Postby anastasiiapopova » January 10th, 2019, 12:44 pm

gablo wrote:What are the possible labs? We cannot find any info on this.


Based on the last two years, we've had;

chromatography (rarely, but be ready)
mixtures of reagents/ separation of a mixture
serial dilutions (with vinegar)
determination of pH
conductivity testing (not really though)
physical vs chemical changes

The ES would use either one or even all of them. Be ready for all. : )

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Re: Potions and Poisons B

Postby Rivkaaa » January 18th, 2019, 11:38 am

anastasiiapopova wrote:
gablo wrote:What are the possible labs? We cannot find any info on this.


Based on the last two years, we've had;

chromatography (rarely, but be ready)
mixtures of reagents/ separation of a mixture
serial dilutions (with vinegar)
determination of pH
conductivity testing (not really though)
physical vs chemical changes

The ES would use either one or even all of them. Be ready for all. : )


Yeah, except I've personally never seen chromatography :D .
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Re: Potions and Poisons B

Postby qk11 » January 19th, 2019, 11:56 pm

How many beakers, erlenmeyer flasks, graduated cylinders, and test tubes should a team bring for Potions & Poisons?

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Re: Potions and Poisons B

Postby Newbietoscience » January 29th, 2019, 6:30 pm

May I have some advice on how to do sample question f.? It's the one saying "Given a map, analyze the potential spread patterns of toxic spills via water, wind or gravity."r


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