This is almost certainly the main reason for the change.kate! wrote:In the first twenty minutes, the only thing you can do is do the experiment and write the basics (the first half of the rubric.) This gives your whole team more time to focus on the actual experiment rather than trying to write down errors and observations. In the next twenty minutes, you'll have finished the experiment, so it'll be much easier to now focus solely on analysis. This is also to prevent people from making up data and forces you to perform a thorough experiment. It depends on how you split up the rubric, but it should be mostly the same as last year, except for the fact that you now have designated times for doing the experiment and analyzing it.Jesusfather123 wrote:Hi,
Can someone explain the new rule for ED this yr? Does it mean , the whole team have to perform the experiment and then move on the whole writing process?
Thanks!
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It is but this is most certainly annoying for teams that worked with legitimate data (aka my team) and started immediately on analysis as soon as results occurred. It takes me about 15 mins to make a "perfect analysis" so it will be a painful process. This certainly will change the method of operations for many top-tier teams.Unome wrote:This is almost certainly the main reason for the change.kate! wrote:In the first twenty minutes, the only thing you can do is do the experiment and write the basics (the first half of the rubric.) This gives your whole team more time to focus on the actual experiment rather than trying to write down errors and observations. In the next twenty minutes, you'll have finished the experiment, so it'll be much easier to now focus solely on analysis. This is also to prevent people from making up data and forces you to perform a thorough experiment. It depends on how you split up the rubric, but it should be mostly the same as last year, except for the fact that you now have designated times for doing the experiment and analyzing it.Jesusfather123 wrote:Hi,
Can someone explain the new rule for ED this yr? Does it mean , the whole team have to perform the experiment and then move on the whole writing process?
Thanks!
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The new format seems to emphasize teamwork as the only way to get everything done is to work as a very solid team and communicate well.TheChiScientist wrote:It is but this is most certainly annoying for teams that worked with legitimate data (aka my team) and started immediately on analysis as soon as results occurred. It takes me about 15 mins to make a "perfect analysis" so it will be a painful process. This certainly will change the method of operations for many top-tier teams.Unome wrote:This is almost certainly the main reason for the change.kate! wrote: In the first twenty minutes, the only thing you can do is do the experiment and write the basics (the first half of the rubric.) This gives your whole team more time to focus on the actual experiment rather than trying to write down errors and observations. In the next twenty minutes, you'll have finished the experiment, so it'll be much easier to now focus solely on analysis. This is also to prevent people from making up data and forces you to perform a thorough experiment. It depends on how you split up the rubric, but it should be mostly the same as last year, except for the fact that you now have designated times for doing the experiment and analyzing it.
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While I certainly do enjoy that idea of teamwork, the only reason our team placed consistently was the independent roles each of us assumed and practiced; now with the new time impediment, this may pose a new challenge in keeping up with the scores now, but then again if other teams did the same they also face the same trouble. Regardless, I would still redistribute (or distribute if you're new) the roles again to try and fit the time management. Just my thought, so take it with a grain of saltdxu46 wrote:The new format seems to emphasize teamwork as the only way to get everything done is to work as a very solid team and communicate well.TheChiScientist wrote:It is but this is most certainly annoying for teams that worked with legitimate data (aka my team) and started immediately on analysis as soon as results occurred. It takes me about 15 mins to make a "perfect analysis" so it will be a painful process. This certainly will change the method of operations for many top-tier teams.Unome wrote: This is almost certainly the main reason for the change.
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It may not have much merit, but here is my XPD grouping list:OrigamiPlanet wrote:While I certainly do enjoy that idea of teamwork, the only reason our team placed consistently was the independent roles each of us assumed and practiced; now with the new time impediment, this may pose a new challenge in keeping up with the scores now, but then again if other teams did the same they also face the same trouble. Regardless, I would still redistribute (or distribute if you're new) the roles again to try and fit the time management. Just my thought, so take it with a grain of saltdxu46 wrote:The new format seems to emphasize teamwork as the only way to get everything done is to work as a very solid team and communicate well.TheChiScientist wrote: It is but this is most certainly annoying for teams that worked with legitimate data (aka my team) and started immediately on analysis as soon as results occurred. It takes me about 15 mins to make a "perfect analysis" so it will be a painful process. This certainly will change the method of operations for many top-tier teams.
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Runs Experiment, F, K, L
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That's actually a solid breakdown!Jacobi wrote:It may not have much merit, but here is my XPD grouping list:OrigamiPlanet wrote:While I certainly do enjoy that idea of teamwork, the only reason our team placed consistently was the independent roles each of us assumed and practiced; now with the new time impediment, this may pose a new challenge in keeping up with the scores now, but then again if other teams did the same they also face the same trouble. Regardless, I would still redistribute (or distribute if you're new) the roles again to try and fit the time management. Just my thought, so take it with a grain of saltdxu46 wrote: The new format seems to emphasize teamwork as the only way to get everything done is to work as a very solid team and communicate well.
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That's actually quite identical to our format and we missed medaling at ISO state by a whisker.dxu46 wrote:That's actually a solid breakdown!Jacobi wrote:It may not have much merit, but here is my XPD grouping list:OrigamiPlanet wrote:
While I certainly do enjoy that idea of teamwork, the only reason our team placed consistently was the independent roles each of us assumed and practiced; now with the new time impediment, this may pose a new challenge in keeping up with the scores now, but then again if other teams did the same they also face the same trouble. Regardless, I would still redistribute (or distribute if you're new) the roles again to try and fit the time management. Just my thought, so take it with a grain of salt
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Thanks to both of you for your feedback.TheChiScientist wrote:That's actually quite identical to our format and we missed medaling at ISO state by a whisker.dxu46 wrote:That's actually a solid breakdown!Jacobi wrote:
It may not have much merit, but here is my XPD grouping list:
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I don't think they expect you to calculate a correlation coefficient by hand. You can just write "obtained by calculator" or something.Jacobi wrote:New Question:
On the Statistics section, if we are calculating something advanced like a correlation coefficient, do we have to show all of our steps?
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