Anatomy and Physiology B/C

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Re: Anatomy and Physiology B/C

Postby bp31000 » February 18th, 2019, 2:10 pm

sorry in advance if this was previously answered.
but the rules say "Measurement of the pulse rate and blood pressure with appropriate instrumentation" does it mean we need to know about the theoretical part of such a measurement or should we be able to measure it hands on? the intro says written test about the following, so i am assuming it is to answer questions about it, but wanted to double check?
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Re: Anatomy and Physiology B/C

Postby cbrant554 » February 18th, 2019, 3:07 pm

bp31000 wrote:sorry in advance if this was previously answered.
but the rules say "Measurement of the pulse rate and blood pressure with appropriate instrumentation" does it mean we need to know about the theoretical part of such a measurement or should we be able to measure it hands on? the intro says written test about the following, so i am assuming it is to answer questions about it, but wanted to double check?

You should know the calculation for pulse rate and blood pressure and what instruments to use. There shouldn't be any hands on testing of heart rate, or not from what I've seen.

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Re: Anatomy and Physiology B/C

Postby bp31000 » February 19th, 2019, 3:04 pm

cbrant554 wrote:You should know the calculation for pulse rate and blood pressure and what instruments to use. There shouldn't be any hands on testing of heart rate, or not from what I've seen.

Thanks!
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Re: Anatomy and Physiology B/C

Postby WangwithaTang » February 19th, 2019, 3:15 pm

bp31000 wrote:
cbrant554 wrote:You should know the calculation for pulse rate and blood pressure and what instruments to use. There shouldn't be any hands on testing of heart rate, or not from what I've seen.

Thanks!

Wait, so do they use any other instruments other than the ECG? Also, I can't find any source explaining the Frank-Starling's Law of the Heart. What is it exactly?

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Re: Anatomy and Physiology B/C

Postby donutsandcupcakes » February 19th, 2019, 3:44 pm

WangwithaTang wrote:
bp31000 wrote:
cbrant554 wrote:You should know the calculation for pulse rate and blood pressure and what instruments to use. There shouldn't be any hands on testing of heart rate, or not from what I've seen.

Thanks!

Wait, so do they use any other instruments other than the ECG? Also, I can't find any source explaining the Frank-Starling's Law of the Heart. What is it exactly?


To answer your question, I didn't really find 'articles' that I could study and understand, but I did find some videos on youtube, if that helps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SO58NndlPI

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Re: Anatomy and Physiology B/C

Postby donutsandcupcakes » February 19th, 2019, 3:46 pm

Also, do you guys have a way to find out if you're ready for the regionals test? And what are your last minute preparations/things you revisit?

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Re: Anatomy and Physiology B/C

Postby amk578 » February 19th, 2019, 4:49 pm

donutsandcupcakes wrote:Also, do you guys have a way to find out if you're ready for the regionals test? And what are your last minute preparations/things you revisit?


Take practice tests for sure (which you should do for all of your study events), I mean idk anything else that is a good indicator of readiness.
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Re: Anatomy and Physiology B/C

Postby bp31000 » February 21st, 2019, 3:42 pm

WangwithaTang wrote:
bp31000 wrote:
cbrant554 wrote:You should know the calculation for pulse rate and blood pressure and what instruments to use. There shouldn't be any hands on testing of heart rate, or not from what I've seen.

Thanks!

Wait, so do they use any other instruments other than the ECG? Also, I can't find any source explaining the Frank-Starling's Law of the Heart. What is it exactly?

i guess they can ask questions about tachycardia and bradicardia arrhythmia etc all detected via EKG, also sphigmomanometer for bloodpressure measurements, may be you need to identify the instrument. most hospitals use digital ones but the original one used to be mercury and manual inflation.
as for frank starling's law, you can read the page about it in a site cvphysiology, the picture of pressure volume loop is one that could be asked. (i am not sure if i can post links here, hence just posting how to find the article.
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Re: Anatomy and Physiology B/C

Postby WangwithaTang » February 22nd, 2019, 8:56 am

bp31000 wrote:
WangwithaTang wrote:
bp31000 wrote:Thanks!

Wait, so do they use any other instruments other than the ECG? Also, I can't find any source explaining the Frank-Starling's Law of the Heart. What is it exactly?

i guess they can ask questions about tachycardia and bradicardia arrhythmia etc all detected via EKG, also sphigmomanometer for bloodpressure measurements, may be you need to identify the instrument. most hospitals use digital ones but the original one used to be mercury and manual inflation.
as for frank starling's law, you can read the page about it in a site cvphysiology, the picture of pressure volume loop is one that could be asked. (i am not sure if i can post links here, hence just posting how to find the article.

Okay, thanks.

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Re: Anatomy and Physiology B/C

Postby donutsandcupcakes » February 22nd, 2019, 5:57 pm

WangwithaTang wrote:
bp31000 wrote:
WangwithaTang wrote:Wait, so do they use any other instruments other than the ECG? Also, I can't find any source explaining the Frank-Starling's Law of the Heart. What is it exactly?

i guess they can ask questions about tachycardia and bradicardia arrhythmia etc all detected via EKG, also sphigmomanometer for bloodpressure measurements, may be you need to identify the instrument. most hospitals use digital ones but the original one used to be mercury and manual inflation.
as for frank starling's law, you can read the page about it in a site cvphysiology, the picture of pressure volume loop is one that could be asked. (i am not sure if i can post links here, hence just posting how to find the article.

Okay, thanks.

Very similar to the previous question, but did anybody find an easier explanation of the law? Because I found some sources, but they didn't help me understand the law. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Anatomy and Physiology B/C

Postby bp31000 » February 22nd, 2019, 8:14 pm

donutsandcupcakes wrote:
WangwithaTang wrote:
bp31000 wrote:i guess they can ask questions about tachycardia and bradicardia arrhythmia etc all detected via EKG, also sphigmomanometer for bloodpressure measurements, may be you need to identify the instrument. most hospitals use digital ones but the original one used to be mercury and manual inflation.
as for frank starling's law, you can read the page about it in a site cvphysiology, the picture of pressure volume loop is one that could be asked. (i am not sure if i can post links here, hence just posting how to find the article.

Okay, thanks.

Very similar to the previous question, but did anybody find an easier explanation of the law? Because I found some sources, but they didn't help me understand the law. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

basically starlings law says that the more ventricular muscle is stretched by blood (or any muscle for that matter), the more it will contract, so better pumping. so more diastolic filling -> high end diastolic volume, more stretching of ventricular muscle, better pumping. essentially you are increasing stroke volume and Cardiac output when more blood fills ventricles.
hope this helps.
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Re: Anatomy and Physiology B/C

Postby sciencepeeps » February 23rd, 2019, 6:31 am

bp31000 wrote:
cbrant554 wrote:You should know the calculation for pulse rate and blood pressure and what instruments to use. There shouldn't be any hands on testing of heart rate, or not from what I've seen.

Thanks!

In a div B competition a few weeks ago, competitors were asked to take someone’s blood pressure
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Re: Anatomy and Physiology B/C

Postby donutsandcupcakes » February 23rd, 2019, 6:39 am

bp31000 wrote:
donutsandcupcakes wrote:
WangwithaTang wrote:Okay, thanks.

Very similar to the previous question, but did anybody find an easier explanation of the law? Because I found some sources, but they didn't help me understand the law. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

basically starlings law says that the more ventricular muscle is stretched by blood (or any muscle for that matter), the more it will contract, so better pumping. so more diastolic filling -> high end diastolic volume, more stretching of ventricular muscle, better pumping. essentially you are increasing stroke volume and Cardiac output when more blood fills ventricles.
hope this helps.

Thanks, I appreciate it.

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Re: Anatomy and Physiology B/C

Postby donutsandcupcakes » February 23rd, 2019, 6:40 am

sciencepeeps wrote:
bp31000 wrote:
cbrant554 wrote:You should know the calculation for pulse rate and blood pressure and what instruments to use. There shouldn't be any hands on testing of heart rate, or not from what I've seen.

Thanks!

In a div B competition a few weeks ago, competitors were asked to take someone’s blood pressure

Was it a regionals competition?

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Re: Anatomy and Physiology B/C

Postby sciencepeeps » February 23rd, 2019, 12:29 pm

donutsandcupcakes wrote:
sciencepeeps wrote:
bp31000 wrote:Thanks!

In a div B competition a few weeks ago, competitors were asked to take someone’s blood pressure

Was it a regionals competition?

No, just an invitational.
18/19 Anatomy, Boomilever, widi

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Mystery Architecture (-/2/-)
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Regionals:11
State:6
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