Herpetology B/C

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Re: Herpetology B/C

Postby kate! » November 11th, 2018, 3:07 pm

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PeptoBismol wrote:I was researching about racers and I have come across an anomaly. There is a particular snake that's called the California whipsnake or striped racer, but whipsnakes and racers are part of different genera. Wikipedia, Reptile Database, ADW, and IUCN call it Masticophis lateralis and California Herps, iNaturalist, and EOL call it Coluber lateralis. I also found this issue for some other animals.

Does anyone know what to do in this situation?

Include it in your notes but also mention the controversies.

Adding on to this, when this comes up for other animals, and the information you find contradicts the official list, always go by what the list says, but include the other information.
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Re: Herpetology B/C

Postby cbrant554 » November 16th, 2018, 8:57 am

kate! wrote:
UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F wrote:
PeptoBismol wrote:I was researching about racers and I have come across an anomaly. There is a particular snake that's called the California whipsnake or striped racer, but whipsnakes and racers are part of different genera. Wikipedia, Reptile Database, ADW, and IUCN call it Masticophis lateralis and California Herps, iNaturalist, and EOL call it Coluber lateralis. I also found this issue for some other animals.

Does anyone know what to do in this situation?

Include it in your notes but also mention the controversies.

Adding on to this, when this comes up for other animals, and the information you find contradicts the official list, always go by what the list says, but include the other information.

Always use the rules or SOinc.org as a reference to see what to use or what could be right or wrong.

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Re: Herpetology B/C Polychridae?

Postby MiningMathSushi » November 26th, 2018, 11:09 am

Anyone have any idea if classification has changed recently? For example, I think that Polychridae has been renamed to Dactyloidae. If anyone could help it'd be great!

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Re: Herpetology B/C

Postby dvegadvol » November 26th, 2018, 12:18 pm

Polychridae has indeed been changed to Dactyloidae (in 2012*), but the National list still has Polychridae as the Family name; ES are asked to stick to the National list.

Go with the list, but make a note of the Family name change...

* http://www.southeastern.edu/acad_resear ... al2012.pdf

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Re: Herpetology B/C

Postby isotelus » November 27th, 2018, 3:20 pm

Hello, I was wondering how much trivia we would need to know for each order and genus, or if it's even relevant at all.
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Re: Herpetology B/C

Postby kate! » November 27th, 2018, 4:02 pm

isotelus wrote:Hello, I was wondering how much trivia we would need to know for each order and genus, or if it's even relevant at all.
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Okay this may not be good advice because I've never actually competed but I think that you should know things like state reptiles, etymology, information specifically pertaining to your state, but just things that you think are relevant and different from other genera/orders. For example, the fact that a species of Ensatina is a ring species.
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Re: Herpetology B/C

Postby isotelus » November 27th, 2018, 4:03 pm

kate! wrote:
isotelus wrote:Hello, I was wondering how much trivia we would need to know for each order and genus, or if it's even relevant at all.
Thanks

Okay this may not be good advice because I've never actually competed but I think that you should know things like state reptiles, etymology, information specifically pertaining to your state, but just things that you think are relevant and different from other genera/orders. For example, the fact that a species of Ensatina is a ring species.

Ok, thank you!
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Re: Herpetology B/C

Postby Kyanite » November 28th, 2018, 10:34 am

isotelus wrote:Hello, I was wondering how much trivia we would need to know for each order and genus, or if it's even relevant at all.
Thanks

Last year some notable ones I saw over and over were state reptiles/amphibians, locations of interest (ie blind salamanders in Texas), venom facts, defense mechanisms and unique adaptations. Essentially if a genus has something fairly unusual about it, expect them to ask questions about it.

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Re: Herpetology B/C

Postby karanbe123 » November 28th, 2018, 2:14 pm

Kyanite wrote:
isotelus wrote:Hello, I was wondering how much trivia we would need to know for each order and genus, or if it's even relevant at all.
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Last year some notable ones I saw over and over were state reptiles/amphibians, locations of interest (ie blind salamanders in Texas), venom facts, defense mechanisms and unique adaptations. Essentially if a genus has something fairly unusual about it, expect them to ask questions about it.

Yeah, at this point its I wouldn't even call it trivia because they are asked so often.
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Re: Herpetology B/C

Postby cbrant554 » November 29th, 2018, 7:38 am

karanbe123 wrote:
Kyanite wrote:
isotelus wrote:Hello, I was wondering how much trivia we would need to know for each order and genus, or if it's even relevant at all.
Thanks

Last year some notable ones I saw over and over were state reptiles/amphibians, locations of interest (ie blind salamanders in Texas), venom facts, defense mechanisms and unique adaptations. Essentially if a genus has something fairly unusual about it, expect them to ask questions about it.

Yeah, at this point its I wouldn't even call it trivia because they are asked so often.

I would group the genus facts with one of the animals in the genus and use that as your base like I see a lot of dusky salamander questions so I would put my Plethodontidae genus facts on the same page or a page after them

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Re: Herpetology B/C

Postby gl10086 » November 30th, 2018, 6:19 pm

Hello! I was wondering if there were any websites that I could use for additional information besides the wiki page. Have any ideas?
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Re: Herpetology B/C

Postby UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F » November 30th, 2018, 6:21 pm

gl10086 wrote:Hello! I was wondering if there were any websites that I could use for additional information besides the wiki page. Have any ideas?

Wikipedia :P

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Re: Herpetology B/C

Postby gl10086 » November 30th, 2018, 6:27 pm

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gl10086 wrote:Hello! I was wondering if there were any websites that I could use for additional information besides the wiki page. Have any ideas?

Wikipedia :P

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Re: Herpetology B/C

Postby dvegadvol » December 1st, 2018, 8:14 am

This is a great resource: https://animaldiversity.org/

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Re: Herpetology B/C

Postby cbrant554 » December 2nd, 2018, 1:07 am

I recommend also trying to find online PDFs of field guides because they can be more consistent than some online resources


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