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Re: Fermi Questions C

Postby Jacobi » September 23rd, 2018, 10:23 am

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TheChiScientist wrote:^This is what you do. I would start off by studying the powers (Billion, Trillion etc.) and from there study common facts such as the mass of the sun, values of lightyears, milliseconds etc.


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Heyo! Thanks for reminding me. Here are a couple of sets that I put together last year:
Logs and constants
Random values and stuff

(fair warning on the second set there: I wasn't very consistent on putting stuff in exponential form and a few things are very Michigan-specific)


Moreover, you should know your digit logs base 10:









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Re: Fermi Questions C

Postby Unome » September 23rd, 2018, 1:44 pm

Jacobi wrote:
John Richardsim wrote:

Heyo! Thanks for reminding me. Here are a couple of sets that I put together last year:
Logs and constants
Random values and stuff

(fair warning on the second set there: I wasn't very consistent on putting stuff in exponential form and a few things are very Michigan-specific)


Moreover, you should know your digit logs base 10:









For logs, I would recommend knowing 3 digits. I would also recommend knowing pi and e, since those do come up.
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Re: Fermi Questions C

Postby Jacobi » September 24th, 2018, 8:40 am

Unome wrote:
Jacobi wrote:
John Richardsim wrote:Heyo! Thanks for reminding me. Here are a couple of sets that I put together last year:
Logs and constants
Random values and stuff

(fair warning on the second set there: I wasn't very consistent on putting stuff in exponential form and a few things are very Michigan-specific)


Moreover, you should know your digit logs base 10:









For logs, I would recommend knowing 3 digits. I would also recommend knowing pi and e, since those do come up.

I usually approximate both of those with 3, and then go up or down a few as I feel.

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Re: Fermi Questions C

Postby acidbeaker » October 12th, 2018, 9:54 pm

What are some common conversions/weird units I should know, as someone new to this event?
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Re: Fermi Questions C

Postby John Richardsim » October 12th, 2018, 11:47 pm

acidbeaker wrote:What are some common conversions/weird units I should know, as someone new to this event?

Here's a document I made last year: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JyUMav ... sp=sharing
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Re: Fermi Questions C

Postby PM2017 » October 15th, 2018, 12:53 pm

Hey guys!
As of late, Name and I have been the only two people posting on the Fermi Q's Question Marathon.

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Re: Fermi Questions C

Postby UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F » October 15th, 2018, 12:55 pm

PM2017 wrote:Hey guys!
As of late, Name and I have been the only two people posting on the Fermi Q's Question Marathon.

Go show it some love!

Unfortunately, as much as I'd love to, I have other events I have to work on :(

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Re: Fermi Questions C

Postby OrigamiPlanet » October 22nd, 2018, 1:25 pm

acidbeaker wrote:What are some common conversions/weird units I should know, as someone new to this event?


You'll pretty much need to know any sort of conversion. From what I hear from others, astronomical distances like light years or parsecs are good, since those distances are pretty massive. You should also figure out maybe energy conversions, like kilocalories and Joules. Finally also start off with things at the atomic level, like speeds of electrons and charges, and more. Weird units? If we're talking in terms of like exponentials, http://www5.csudh.edu/oliver/chemdata/prefix.htm ought to be a good website for those prefixes like yocto and peta. For more obscure units to know, things could go anywhere, but maybe things like Coulombs, Watts, Webers, Farads, Amperes, Lumen, Volts, Pascals, and more.

Take what I say with a grain of salt though, I'm not an expert at fermi ;)
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Re: Fermi Questions C

Postby linzhiyan » October 22nd, 2018, 3:08 pm

I don't know if this has been asked before, but how would one go about for studying for this event? To me, it seems like a harder, more mathy version of fast fact. Do the two have some similarities?
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Re: Fermi Questions C

Postby John Richardsim » October 23rd, 2018, 7:42 am

linzhiyan wrote:I don't know if this has been asked before, but how would one go about for studying for this event? To me, it seems like a harder, more mathy version of fast fact. Do the two have some similarities?

They have some similarities in that there is no resources allowed in the event and there is an emphasis on speed (FF speed with recall; Fermi speed with calculation).

I think a good place to start would be to try taking a few old tests and seeing what sorts of questions are asked. Look for common topics. Look for unfamiliar units. Look for things that may be useful to commit to memory rather than having to estimate every time you see it.

Also start asking and trying to answer your own Fermi questions. Do it whenever you get bored throughout the day.
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Re: Fermi Questions C

Postby linzhiyan » October 23rd, 2018, 7:52 am

John Richardsim wrote:
linzhiyan wrote:I don't know if this has been asked before, but how would one go about for studying for this event? To me, it seems like a harder, more mathy version of fast fact. Do the two have some similarities?

They have some similarities in that there is no resources allowed in the event and there is an emphasis on speed (FF speed with recall; Fermi speed with calculation).

I think a good place to start would be to try taking a few old tests and seeing what sorts of questions are asked. Look for common topics. Look for unfamiliar units. Look for things that may be useful to commit to memory rather than having to estimate every time you see it.

Also start asking and trying to answer your own Fermi questions. Do it whenever you get bored throughout the day.

Cool, thanks!
Lol, I get bored extremely often, so...
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Re: Fermi Questions C

Postby PM2017 » October 23rd, 2018, 8:36 am

linzhiyan wrote:
John Richardsim wrote:
linzhiyan wrote:I don't know if this has been asked before, but how would one go about for studying for this event? To me, it seems like a harder, more mathy version of fast fact. Do the two have some similarities?

They have some similarities in that there is no resources allowed in the event and there is an emphasis on speed (FF speed with recall; Fermi speed with calculation).

I think a good place to start would be to try taking a few old tests and seeing what sorts of questions are asked. Look for common topics. Look for unfamiliar units. Look for things that may be useful to commit to memory rather than having to estimate every time you see it.

Also start asking and trying to answer your own Fermi questions. Do it whenever you get bored throughout the day.

Cool, thanks!
Lol, I get bored extremely often, so...

It's actually really funny and surprising how often Fermi-like questions pop up all the time.
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Re: Fermi Questions C

Postby Alex-RCHS » October 28th, 2018, 11:07 am

Why is Fermi often run at the very beginning of the day, for all teams? I could see that working for something like Disease Detectives, which is often long and time-consuming to grade, but Fermi is very easy to grade. Is it to avoid cheating?
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Re: Fermi Questions C

Postby Unome » October 28th, 2018, 1:40 pm

Alex-RCHS wrote:Why is Fermi often run at the very beginning of the day, for all teams? I could see that working for something like Disease Detectives, which is often long and time-consuming to grade, but Fermi is very easy to grade. Is it to avoid cheating?

This is a recent thing, and pretty much just stems from Nationals, who presumably wanted two events in the morning session to even out conflicts more, and none of the other events fit well (e.g. Exp Design room size).
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Re: Fermi Questions C

Postby nicholasmaurer » October 28th, 2018, 3:24 pm

Unome wrote:
Alex-RCHS wrote:Why is Fermi often run at the very beginning of the day, for all teams? I could see that working for something like Disease Detectives, which is often long and time-consuming to grade, but Fermi is very easy to grade. Is it to avoid cheating?

This is a recent thing, and pretty much just stems from Nationals, who presumably wanted two events in the morning session to even out conflicts more, and none of the other events fit well (e.g. Exp Design room size).


Also, this year it isn't scheduled for the impound period. It will run during the six main blocks.
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