Mission Possible C

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Re: Mission Possible C

Postby CookiePie1 » January 23rd, 2019, 12:03 pm

ET2020 wrote:
CookiePie1 wrote: Try reading the rules again, closely.


Section 4.e. says, "The Target Operation Time is 60.0 seconds at Regionals/Invitationals, 61.0 to 90.0 seconds at State,
and 91.0 to 120.0 seconds at Nationals."
I'm a bit confused because windu34 said they used Nationals rules at MIT, implying the 91.0 to 120.0 second target time, but the rules clearly state the target for invitationals is 60.0 seconds. Which time was used?


I see, sorry about that. What MIT does is run all of its events on national rules, which means that they DON'T use the regional/invitational rules. It's a bit wierd, since soinc.org says that invitationals should follow regional rules.
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Re: Mission Possible C

Postby JonB » January 23rd, 2019, 1:49 pm

ET2020 wrote:
CookiePie1 wrote: Try reading the rules again, closely.


Section 4.e. says, "The Target Operation Time is 60.0 seconds at Regionals/Invitationals, 61.0 to 90.0 seconds at State,
and 91.0 to 120.0 seconds at Nationals."
I'm a bit confused because windu34 said they used Nationals rules at MIT, implying the 91.0 to 120.0 second target time, but the rules clearly state the target for invitationals is 60.0 seconds. Which time was used?



I can confirm what CookiePie1 stated- MIT does use National level rules for all events (as will SOUP, apparently). The target time at MIT was 112 seconds.

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Re: Mission Possible C

Postby PM2017 » January 23rd, 2019, 8:52 pm

ET2020 wrote:
CookiePie1 wrote: Try reading the rules again, closely.


Section 4.e. says, "The Target Operation Time is 60.0 seconds at Regionals/Invitationals, 61.0 to 90.0 seconds at State,
and 91.0 to 120.0 seconds at Nationals."
I'm a bit confused because windu34 said they used Nationals rules at MIT, implying the 91.0 to 120.0 second target time, but the rules clearly state the target for invitationals is 60.0 seconds. Which time was used?

Certain invites use states/nats rules, but they have to announce this to the participating teams beforehand.
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Re: Mission Possible C

Postby nicholasmaurer » January 24th, 2019, 11:18 am

PM2017 wrote:
ET2020 wrote:
CookiePie1 wrote: Try reading the rules again, closely.


Section 4.e. says, "The Target Operation Time is 60.0 seconds at Regionals/Invitationals, 61.0 to 90.0 seconds at State,
and 91.0 to 120.0 seconds at Nationals."
I'm a bit confused because windu34 said they used Nationals rules at MIT, implying the 91.0 to 120.0 second target time, but the rules clearly state the target for invitationals is 60.0 seconds. Which time was used?

Certain invites use states/nats rules, but they have to announce this to the participating teams beforehand.


I'm not a fan of the practice, but it's certainly the prerogative of the tournament director. I think it makes it challenging for teams (like many in Ohio) who segment their season into an invitational portion and a state/nationals preparation portion.
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Re: Mission Possible C

Postby Vortexx » January 24th, 2019, 5:38 pm

So it says that timing stops when the final task stops moving. However, if it never moves, but yet it was intended to, would the timing then be stopped?

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Re: Mission Possible C

Postby nicholasmaurer » January 24th, 2019, 5:59 pm

Vortexx wrote:So it says that timing stops when the final task stops moving. However, if it never moves, but yet it was intended to, would the timing then be stopped?


If it never moves, then timing would stop at 180.0 seconds per 4.f.
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Re: Mission Possible C

Postby saathvik02 » February 4th, 2019, 8:34 pm

How are you all planning on dropping the tablets into the water for the effervescence task? I was thinking about using a magnet but wanted to see if there were any suggestions.

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Re: Mission Possible C

Postby TheSquaad » February 6th, 2019, 5:06 am

saathvik02 wrote:How are you all planning on dropping the tablets into the water for the effervescence task? I was thinking about using a magnet but wanted to see if there were any suggestions.


Magnets are definitely your best bet.

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Re: Mission Possible C

Postby saathvik02 » February 8th, 2019, 10:15 am

Do you think it would be considered electrically powered if electricity was used to drop a weight(not powered directly) that turned a screw or activated any non-electrical tasks?

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Re: Mission Possible C

Postby CookiePie1 » February 8th, 2019, 11:07 am

saathvik02 wrote:Do you think it would be considered electrically powered if electricity was used to drop a weight(not powered directly) that turned a screw or activated any non-electrical tasks?


It depends on which task came before that one. If an electrical task was used prior to this, you may be able to get away with it by wording your ASL carefully. However, you can't use this as the scorable magnet task because you used electricity.
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Re: Mission Possible C

Postby teamblueorange » February 11th, 2019, 7:46 pm

Can we use an EV3 brick in our project and some of its sensors to help carry out our overall project?

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Re: Mission Possible C

Postby jinhusong » February 11th, 2019, 9:25 pm

teamblueorange wrote:Can we use an EV3 brick in our project and some of its sensors to help carry out our overall project?



I am pretty sure it is banned. Nothing programmable.

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Re: Mission Possible C

Postby absolutezerok3 » February 12th, 2019, 7:15 am

So far through the season, I have been using a 9v battery to power my entire apparatus. However, I noticed that the rules never state that you cannot have more than 9v in total of batteries on your device. It only states, as I interpret, that each individual battery cannot be more than 9v and that the voltage across any two points may not exceed 9v. Does this mean you can have multiple 9v batteries powering different curcuits and multiple 9v batteries in parallel?
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Re: Mission Possible C

Postby Vortexx » February 12th, 2019, 7:50 am

absolutezerok3 wrote:So far through the season, I have been using a 9v battery to power my entire apparatus. However, I noticed that the rules never state that you cannot have more than 9v in total of batteries on your device. It only states, as I interpret, that each individual battery cannot be more than 9v and that the voltage across any two points may not exceed 9v. Does this mean you can have multiple 9v batteries powering different curcuits and multiple 9v batteries in parallel?


Pretty sure that you can have multiple circuits that each have their own battery, but the voltage in each individual circuit cannot surpass 9V.

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Re: Mission Possible C

Postby ScottMaurer19 » February 12th, 2019, 9:46 am

Vortexx wrote:
absolutezerok3 wrote:So far through the season, I have been using a 9v battery to power my entire apparatus. However, I noticed that the rules never state that you cannot have more than 9v in total of batteries on your device. It only states, as I interpret, that each individual battery cannot be more than 9v and that the voltage across any two points may not exceed 9v. Does this mean you can have multiple 9v batteries powering different curcuits and multiple 9v batteries in parallel?


Pretty sure that you can have multiple circuits that each have their own battery, but the voltage in each individual circuit cannot surpass 9V.

My device has multiple circuits each powered by its own 9v battery.
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