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String Task

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See rule 4.b.xi

I was tempted to call this one the Nichrome Task, because that's basically all there is to it.
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One challenge that the rules introduced this year was the limited use of electricity to 4 specific tasks. I was wondering if I could repeat this task multiple unique times (without receiving points apart from the first instance)without incurring a penalty for using electricity in non-specified tasks? I have already submitted a FAQ but wanted a quick opinion.

TL;DR: If you repeat this task after its first completion, will it incur a penalty for using electricity(6.d.ii)?
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absolutezerok3 wrote:One challenge that the rules introduced this year was the limited use of electricity to 4 specific tasks. I was wondering if I could repeat this task multiple unique times (without receiving points apart from the first instance)without incurring a penalty for using electricity in non-specified tasks? I have already submitted a FAQ but wanted a quick opinion.

TL;DR: If you repeat this task after its first completion, will it incur a penalty for using electricity(6.d.ii)?
Per 4.b. scoreable actions are expected to be unique. If you repeated it multiple times, only one would be scoreable, and the others would therefore not be allowed under 3.g.
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nicholasmaurer wrote:
absolutezerok3 wrote:One challenge that the rules introduced this year was the limited use of electricity to 4 specific tasks. I was wondering if I could repeat this task multiple unique times (without receiving points apart from the first instance)without incurring a penalty for using electricity in non-specified tasks? I have already submitted a FAQ but wanted a quick opinion.

TL;DR: If you repeat this task after its first completion, will it incur a penalty for using electricity(6.d.ii)?
Per 4.b. scoreable actions are expected to be unique. If you repeated it multiple times, only one would be scoreable, and the others would therefore not be allowed under 3.g.
Oh ok
Since the action is no longer scoreable, it wouldn't be included under the umbrella of score-able action xi, and therefore would incur a penalty for using electricity
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Unome wrote:
I was tempted to call this one the Nichrome Task, because that's basically all there is to it.
Is nichrome wire legal? I thought it would be considered an unsafe material by 3.j, even though it's not listed there.
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ET2020 wrote:
Unome wrote:
I was tempted to call this one the Nichrome Task, because that's basically all there is to it.
Is nichrome wire legal? I thought it would be considered an unsafe material by 3.j, even though it's not listed there.
Historically nichrome has been legal and very common in Mission, which is why it was the first thing that came to mind. It's not listed directly or indirectly as far as I can tell.
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Unome wrote:
ET2020 wrote:
Unome wrote:
I was tempted to call this one the Nichrome Task, because that's basically all there is to it.
Is nichrome wire legal? I thought it would be considered an unsafe material by 3.j, even though it's not listed there.
Historically nichrome has been legal and very common in Mission, which is why it was the first thing that came to mind. It's not listed directly or indirectly as far as I can tell.
The FAQ last year about controlled vs. uncontrolled flames was very carefully crafted to permit Nichrome wire - I think it's safe to assume it remains legal under 3.j.
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Re: String Task

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Maybe this is a stupid question, but how exactly are people planning on using nichrome in the event? Is the idea that it can be heated up through applying current and used to melt/break a fishing line or other string?
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Wabbit wrote:Maybe this is a stupid question, but how exactly are people planning on using nichrome in the event? Is the idea that it can be heated up through applying current and used to melt/break a fishing line or other string?
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Not what I'm planning on doing, but could the nichrome itself count as the string, and break when heated? (If the wire is thin enough, it breaks upon heating, whichc caused me many headaches last year.)
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