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Re: End Task

Postby chrroh » September 9th, 2018, 6:40 pm

saathvik02 wrote:How are you guys planning on raising the platform?


I was thinking of either using a Scissor Lift or a Rack and Pinion. Theoretically they'd be controlled by a motor that was previously activated by something hitting a limit switch.
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Re: End Task

Postby chessbucket » September 11th, 2018, 4:11 pm

Hint:friction...
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Postby CookiePie1 » September 13th, 2018, 1:51 pm

chessbucket wrote:Hint:friction...

Hint: WD-40 :lol:
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Re: End Task

Postby Jacobi » September 16th, 2018, 12:34 pm

saathvik02 wrote:How are you guys planning on raising the platform?


I'm not an expert, but I would think that a scissor jack or a hydraulic jack would work. Such a hydraulic jack might use gravity + an electrically controlled pump. Thoughts?

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Re: End Task

Postby chessbucket » September 30th, 2018, 2:51 pm

Jacobi wrote:
saathvik02 wrote:How are you guys planning on raising the platform?


I'm not an expert, but I would think that a scissor jack or a hydraulic jack would work. Such a hydraulic jack might use gravity + an electrically controlled pump. Thoughts?


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Re: End Task

Postby PM2017 » September 30th, 2018, 7:05 pm

chessbucket wrote:
Jacobi wrote:
saathvik02 wrote:How are you guys planning on raising the platform?


I'm not an expert, but I would think that a scissor jack or a hydraulic jack would work. Such a hydraulic jack might use gravity + an electrically controlled pump. Thoughts?


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I don't believe there's supposed to be an "and" there my friend.
Changes the meaning quite a bit. haha
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Re: End Task

Postby Jacobi » October 4th, 2018, 1:26 pm

chessbucket wrote:
Jacobi wrote:
saathvik02 wrote:How are you guys planning on raising the platform?


I'm not an expert, but I would think that a scissor jack or a hydraulic jack would work. Such a hydraulic jack might use gravity + an electrically controlled pump. Thoughts?


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You're right.

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Re: End Task

Postby C8H10N4O2! » October 4th, 2018, 3:58 pm

question about the lifting of the platform, does it have to lift the full 20cm before leaving the outside of the device dimensions, or can it rise some of that above the actual device? im assuming the first one, but i just want to check to be sure

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Postby PM2017 » October 4th, 2018, 4:16 pm

C8H10N4O2! wrote:question about the lifting of the platform, does it have to lift the full 20cm before leaving the outside of the device dimensions, or can it rise some of that above the actual device? im assuming the first one, but i just want to check to be sure

I had the same concerns. I'd say an FAQ is necessary here.
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Re: End Task

Postby beaverkid » October 4th, 2018, 5:44 pm

I think 4.c. answers this "the device must raise a... platform... a vertical distance of at least 20.0 cm before it becomes the highest point of the device."

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Postby Jacobi » October 11th, 2018, 1:46 pm

beaverkid wrote:I think 4.c. answers this "the device must raise a... platform... a vertical distance of at least 20.0 cm before it becomes the highest point of the device."

Agreed. Either way, remember these three things:

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Re: End Task

Postby djturner » November 14th, 2018, 6:57 pm

Does the final height of the battery and platform when it becomes the "highest point of the device" need to remain within the 60cm height limitation? I would think so, since it is part of the operation, and 3a states that "During operation, device dimensions can be no greater than... 60.0 cm (H)."
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Re: End Task

Postby PM2017 » November 14th, 2018, 7:54 pm

djturner wrote:Does the final height of the battery and platform when it becomes the "highest point of the device" need to remain within the 60cm height limitation? I would think so, since it is part of the operation, and 3a states that "During operation, device dimensions can be no greater than 60.0 cm (D) x 60.0 cm (W) x 60.0 cm (H)."

Two things:
1. Quote as little as possible from the rules; I think there are some copyright issues.

2. Read 6.b.i.
It says that the final action is excluded from the exceeding the 60 cm penalty.
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Re: End Task

Postby nicholasmaurer » November 15th, 2018, 9:42 am

PM2017 wrote:
djturner wrote:Does the final height of the battery and platform when it becomes the "highest point of the device" need to remain within the 60cm height limitation? I would think so, since it is part of the operation, and 3a states that "During operation, device dimensions can be no greater than 60.0 cm (D) x 60.0 cm (W) x 60.0 cm (H)."

Two things:
1. Quote as little as possible from the rules; I think there are some copyright issues.

2. Read 6.b.i.
It says that the final action is excluded from the exceeding the 60 cm penalty.


My understanding is that brief quotes are acceptable as long as you are acknowledging them as quotes (rather than taking credit).

I would agree with this interpretation. However, I would also comment that there are some complex issues around when the device dimensions should be measured, whether they can change during operation, and when you incur the 6.b.i. penalty vs. the 6.c. penalty. These have not been resolved, although I have several submitted FAQs and I know they are being actively discussed.
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Re: End Task

Postby nicholasmaurer » November 15th, 2018, 10:49 am

nicholasmaurer wrote:
PM2017 wrote:
djturner wrote:Does the final height of the battery and platform when it becomes the "highest point of the device" need to remain within the 60cm height limitation? I would think so, since it is part of the operation, and 3a states that "During operation, device dimensions can be no greater than 60.0 cm (D) x 60.0 cm (W) x 60.0 cm (H)."

Two things:
1. Quote as little as possible from the rules; I think there are some copyright issues.

2. Read 6.b.i.
It says that the final action is excluded from the exceeding the 60 cm penalty.


My understanding is that brief quotes are acceptable as long as you are acknowledging them as quotes (rather than taking credit).

I would agree with this interpretation. However, I would also comment that there are some complex issues around when the device dimensions should be measured, whether they can change during operation, and when you incur the 6.b.i. penalty vs. the 6.c. penalty. These have not been resolved, although I have several submitted FAQs and I know they are being actively discussed.


I spoke about an hour too soon. The FAQs about device dimensions have been answered.
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