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Re: 2019 Princeton University Invitational

Postby wetaed » January 14th, 2019, 7:47 pm

predictions?

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Re: 2019 Princeton University Invitational

Postby Raleway » January 16th, 2019, 9:18 pm

wetaed wrote:predictions?


Probably a mixture of the top NJ/PA teams with maybe F-M getting in there too. Probably like WWPN, F-M, WWPS/Montgomery, LM, Rustin. Don't really see any other team breaking top 6.
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Re: 2019 Princeton University Invitational

Postby Name » January 16th, 2019, 9:26 pm

Raleway wrote:
wetaed wrote:predictions?


Probably a mixture of the top NJ/PA teams with maybe F-M getting in there too. Probably like WWPN, F-M, WWPS/Montgomery, LM, Rustin. Don't really see any other team breaking top 6.

Columbia, Enloe, Mentor, and Northville can all probably be top 6 candidates
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Re: 2019 Princeton University Invitational

Postby Raleway » January 17th, 2019, 7:43 am

Name wrote:
Raleway wrote:
wetaed wrote:predictions?


Probably a mixture of the top NJ/PA teams with maybe F-M getting in there too. Probably like WWPN, F-M, WWPS/Montgomery, LM, Rustin. Don't really see any other team breaking top 6.

Columbia, Enloe, Mentor, and Northville can all probably be top 6 candidates


I didn't see those teams anywhere on the team numbers sheet listed :(
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Re: 2019 Princeton University Invitational

Postby Name » January 17th, 2019, 8:30 am

Raleway wrote:
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Raleway wrote:
Probably a mixture of the top NJ/PA teams with maybe F-M getting in there too. Probably like WWPN, F-M, WWPS/Montgomery, LM, Rustin. Don't really see any other team breaking top 6.

Columbia, Enloe, Mentor, and Northville can all probably be top 6 candidates


I didn't see those teams anywhere on the team numbers sheet listed :(

I was looking at a earlier post made here. Maybe teams dropped out?
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Re: 2019 Princeton University Invitational

Postby fanjiatian » January 17th, 2019, 1:19 pm

Dropped out a few weeks after registration stating some variant of "we don't have the resources to attend"..

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Re: 2019 Princeton University Invitational

Postby Raleway » January 17th, 2019, 8:27 pm

fanjiatian wrote:Dropped out a few weeks after registration stating some variant of "we don't have the resources to attend"..


Teams that sign up should have an obligation to go and not simply "drop out." It's not fair to those on the waitlist nor the TOs or even those teams that attend and expect a certain level of competition :(

PS: Also worth noting registration was free... so kind of not cool?
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Re: 2019 Princeton University Invitational

Postby pb5754[] » January 17th, 2019, 9:23 pm

Raleway wrote:
fanjiatian wrote:Dropped out a few weeks after registration stating some variant of "we don't have the resources to attend"..


Teams that sign up should have an obligation to go and not simply "drop out." It's not fair to those on the waitlist nor the TOs or even those teams that attend and expect a certain level of competition :(

PS: Also worth noting registration was free... so kind of not cool?

I mean, per PUSO policy, teams were allowed to drop out until 11/23/18, after which a $100 fine would also be needed to be paid. Anyways, it definitely would have been nice to see them come to Princeton. :(

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Postby lumosityfan » February 3rd, 2019, 8:25 am

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Re: 2019 Princeton University Invitational

Postby windu34 » February 3rd, 2019, 12:50 pm

Raleway wrote:
fanjiatian wrote:Dropped out a few weeks after registration stating some variant of "we don't have the resources to attend"..


Teams that sign up should have an obligation to go and not simply "drop out." It's not fair to those on the waitlist nor the TOs or even those teams that attend and expect a certain level of competition :(

PS: Also worth noting registration was free... so kind of not cool?
I think this is the issue with having no registration fee. It would almost be better to have one as a "down payment" and then reimburse it later if they show up at competition
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Re: 2019 Princeton University Invitational

Postby GoldenKnight1 » February 3rd, 2019, 3:06 pm

windu34 wrote:
Raleway wrote:
fanjiatian wrote:Dropped out a few weeks after registration stating some variant of "we don't have the resources to attend"..


Teams that sign up should have an obligation to go and not simply "drop out." It's not fair to those on the waitlist nor the TOs or even those teams that attend and expect a certain level of competition :(

PS: Also worth noting registration was free... so kind of not cool?
I think this is the issue with having no registration fee. It would almost be better to have one as a "down payment" and then reimburse it later if they show up at competition


I think the bigger issue is teams having registration for different tournaments opening on different days, filling quickly, and in the case of some school not knowing if you will be able to bring two teams. For example Rustin signed up for Cornell which was going to be the same date as U Penn. Both are fine options but U Penn is only 30 minutes away. Unfortunately U Penn's Registration opened after Cornell's and historically has filled up quickly. So we register for Cornell to make sure we are in somewhere and when we find out later we are accepted for U Penn we let Cornell know that week.

And even that decision was partly controlled by whether or not we were accepted in the MIT lottery and could bring two teams. If MIT had not given us two teams we would have stayed local and attended the Battle at Valley Forge (which we had also registered for). That would have saved us money and taken away an overnight trip leaving us with more flexibility to attend Cornell if we wanted.

I am not sure how you solve the problem if there really is one. I don't believe Princeton being free really matters as none of the 4 invitationals I listed above are but yet experienced the same issue. Also many tournaments including our own have teams that drop out last minute. Often they are less experienced teams, but not always.

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Re: 2019 Princeton University Invitational

Postby Unome » February 3rd, 2019, 5:14 pm

GoldenKnight1 wrote:
windu34 wrote:
Raleway wrote:
Teams that sign up should have an obligation to go and not simply "drop out." It's not fair to those on the waitlist nor the TOs or even those teams that attend and expect a certain level of competition :(

PS: Also worth noting registration was free... so kind of not cool?
I think this is the issue with having no registration fee. It would almost be better to have one as a "down payment" and then reimburse it later if they show up at competition


I think the bigger issue is teams having registration for different tournaments opening on different days, filling quickly, and in the case of some school not knowing if you will be able to bring two teams. For example Rustin signed up for Cornell which was going to be the same date as U Penn. Both are fine options but U Penn is only 30 minutes away. Unfortunately U Penn's Registration opened after Cornell's and historically has filled up quickly. So we register for Cornell to make sure we are in somewhere and when we find out later we are accepted for U Penn we let Cornell know that week.

And even that decision was partly controlled by whether or not we were accepted in the MIT lottery and could bring two teams. If MIT had not given us two teams we would have stayed local and attended the Battle at Valley Forge (which we had also registered for). That would have saved us money and taken away an overnight trip leaving us with more flexibility to attend Cornell if we wanted.

I am not sure how you solve the problem if there really is one. I don't believe Princeton being free really matters as none of the 4 invitationals I listed above are but yet experienced the same issue. Also many tournaments including our own have teams that drop out last minute. Often they are less experienced teams, but not always.

Regarding the registration fee, I'm fairly certain Princeton had a $100 penalty for backing out after a certain date.
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Re: 2019 Princeton University Invitational

Postby pikachu4919 » February 3rd, 2019, 8:14 pm

Unome wrote:
GoldenKnight1 wrote:
windu34 wrote:I think this is the issue with having no registration fee. It would almost be better to have one as a "down payment" and then reimburse it later if they show up at competition


I think the bigger issue is teams having registration for different tournaments opening on different days, filling quickly, and in the case of some school not knowing if you will be able to bring two teams. For example Rustin signed up for Cornell which was going to be the same date as U Penn. Both are fine options but U Penn is only 30 minutes away. Unfortunately U Penn's Registration opened after Cornell's and historically has filled up quickly. So we register for Cornell to make sure we are in somewhere and when we find out later we are accepted for U Penn we let Cornell know that week.

And even that decision was partly controlled by whether or not we were accepted in the MIT lottery and could bring two teams. If MIT had not given us two teams we would have stayed local and attended the Battle at Valley Forge (which we had also registered for). That would have saved us money and taken away an overnight trip leaving us with more flexibility to attend Cornell if we wanted.

I am not sure how you solve the problem if there really is one. I don't believe Princeton being free really matters as none of the 4 invitationals I listed above are but yet experienced the same issue. Also many tournaments including our own have teams that drop out last minute. Often they are less experienced teams, but not always.

Regarding the registration fee, I'm fairly certain Princeton had a $100 penalty for backing out after a certain date.


Yeah, that is correct, but I'm sure whoever dropped out most likely dropped out before that date.
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Re: 2019 Princeton University Invitational

Postby pb5754[] » February 7th, 2019, 4:10 pm

Here are my (probably incorrect) predictions:

1. WWP North
2. WWP South
3. Fayetteville-Manlius
4. Montgomery
5. Lower Merion
6. JP Stevens


EDIT: Oops, I forgot F-M. :roll:
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Re: 2019 Princeton University Invitational

Postby GoldenKnight1 » February 7th, 2019, 5:44 pm

pb5754[] wrote:Here are my (probably incorrect) predictions:
3. Rustin

Unlikely. The team brought the flu back from Ohio and many won't be attending Princeton.


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