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Re: Cornell Invitational (Division B and C)

Postby EastStroudsburg13 » February 10th, 2019, 4:47 pm

waffletree wrote:
builderguy135 wrote:13) Harlan Rowe - 10th at Garnet, 5th at Rustin

you mean 5th at garnet, 10th at rustin?
builderguy135 wrote:4) Springhouse - Might lose to Gelinas if they bomb. Won Solon.
5) Gelinas - Strong at Rustin, might be lower.

gelinas beat springhouse at rustin i think?

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Re: Cornell Invitational (Division B and C)

Postby builderguy135 » February 10th, 2019, 4:55 pm

waffletree wrote:
builderguy135 wrote:13) Harlan Rowe - 10th at Garnet, 5th at Rustin

you mean 5th at garnet, 10th at rustin?
builderguy135 wrote:4) Springhouse - Might lose to Gelinas if they bomb. Won Solon.
5) Gelinas - Strong at Rustin, might be lower.

gelinas beat springhouse at rustin i think?


1) Yes, sorry oof
2) No, it was 206-234.
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Re: Cornell Invitational (Division B and C)

Postby sciolyperson1 » February 10th, 2019, 4:56 pm

builderguy135 wrote:With less than a week left, here are my predictions:

1) Solon - Strong as usual. Halved Daniel Wright's score at Centerville :O
2) Beckendorff - Strong UTA and Cypress Falls wins, even if it was early in the season.
3) Community - 66 points at Garnet, but was inconsistent at Rustin.
4) Springhouse - Might lose to Gelinas if they bomb. Won Solon.
5) Gelinas - Strong at Rustin, might be lower.
6) Piedmont - Still very strong, 5th at Centerville
7) Marie Murphy - 4th at Centerville
8) Bay Academy - New team but has proven that they can do very well at Rustin and Garnet.
9) Goff - Based off of 2018 NY states
10) SSA - Did well at Solon
11) Eagle Hill - Based off of 2018 NY states
12) Bedford - Stacking at Cornell afaik.
13) Harlan Rowe - 10th at Garnet, 5th at Rustin

5th to 11th are very hard to predict since all of them are really close, but I took a lot of data from previous invies (Rustin, Garnet, Solon, Centerville, 2018 NY States).


Switch Springhouse and Gelinas, and order 8, 9, 10 as SSA, Bay, Goff, and I'd think its pretty accurate.
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Re: Cornell Invitational (Division B and C)

Postby MattChina » February 10th, 2019, 4:58 pm

builderguy135 wrote:With less than a week left, here are my predictions:

1) Solon - Strong as usual. Halved Daniel Wright's score at Centerville :O
2) Beckendorff - Strong UTA and Cypress Falls wins, even if it was early in the season.
3) Community - 66 points at Garnet, but was inconsistent at Rustin.
4) Springhouse - Might lose to Gelinas if they bomb. Won Solon.
5) Gelinas - Strong at Rustin, might be lower.
6) Piedmont - Still very strong, 5th at Centerville
7) Marie Murphy - 4th at Centerville
8) Bay Academy - New team but has proven that they can do very well at Rustin and Garnet.
9) Goff - Based off of 2018 NY states
10) SSA - Did well at Solon
11) Eagle Hill - Based off of 2018 NY states
12) Bedford - Stacking at Cornell afaik.
13) Harlan Rowe - 10th at Garnet, 5th at Rustin

5th to 11th are very hard to predict since all of them are really close, but I took a lot of data from previous invies (Rustin, Garnet, Solon, Centerville, 2018 NY States).

eagle hill is definitely doing better than goff and bay academy, at states last year, its only because they bombed one event
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Re: Cornell Invitational (Division B and C)

Postby EastStroudsburg13 » February 10th, 2019, 5:02 pm

builderguy135 wrote:2) No, it was 206-234.

Gelinas was the team that scored 206. Springhouse scored 234.
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Re: Cornell Invitational (Division B and C)

Postby builderguy135 » February 10th, 2019, 5:10 pm

builderguy135 wrote:With less than a week left, here are my predictions:

1) Solon - Strong as usual. Halved Daniel Wright's score at Centerville :O
2) Beckendorff - Strong UTA and Cypress Falls wins, even if it was early in the season.
3) Community - 66 points at Garnet, but was inconsistent at Rustin.
4) Springhouse - Might lose to Gelinas if they bomb. Won Solon.
5) Gelinas - Strong at Rustin, might be lower.
6) Piedmont - Still very strong, 5th at Centerville
7) Marie Murphy - 4th at Centerville
8) Bay Academy - New team but has proven that they can do very well at Rustin and Garnet.
9) Goff - Based off of 2018 NY states
10) SSA - Did well at Solon
11) Eagle Hill - Based off of 2018 NY states
12) Bedford - Stacking at Cornell afaik.
13) Harlan Rowe - 10th at Garnet, 5th at Rustin

5th to 11th are very hard to predict since all of them are really close, but I took a lot of data from previous invies (Rustin, Garnet, Solon, Centerville, 2018 NY States).


Changing predictions already lol

1) Solon
2) Beckendorff
3) Community
4) Springhouse
5) Gelinas
6) Piedmont
7) Marie Murphy
8) SSA
9) Bay Academy
10) Eagle Hill
11) Goff
12) Bedford
13) Harlan Rowe
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Re: Cornell Invitational (Division B and C)

Postby drcubbin » February 10th, 2019, 5:22 pm

Changing predictions already lol

1) Solon
2) Beckendorff
3) Community
4) Springhouse
5) Gelinas
6) Piedmont
7) Marie Murphy
8) SSA
9) Bay Academy
10) Eagle Hill
11) Goff
12) Bedford
13) Harlan Rowe[/quote]

Bay Academy just took 4th and 2nd (right behind Springhouse) at Harvard today and our "predicted" place for Cornell goes from 8th to 9th? I know anything is possible, but I think that crystal ball needs a little polishing ;)

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Re: Cornell Invitational (Division B and C)

Postby sciolyperson1 » February 10th, 2019, 5:26 pm

drcubbin wrote:
builderguy123 wrote:Changing predictions already lol

1) Solon
2) Beckendorff
3) Community
4) Springhouse
5) Gelinas
6) Piedmont
7) Marie Murphy
8) SSA
9) Bay Academy
10) Eagle Hill
11) Goff
12) Bedford
13) Harlan Rowe


Bay Academy just took 4th and 2nd (right behind Springhouse) at Harvard today and our "predicted" place for Cornell goes from 8th to 9th? I know anything is possible, but I think that crystal ball needs a little polishing ;)


Solon, Beckendorff, us, Springhouse, Gelinas, Piedmont, Marie Murphy, and SSA are all top tier nats teams. The teams got 1st, 8th, 3rd, 5th, 11th, 6th, (missed nats cuz of roller bomb), and 13th. In addition, Bedford got 25th and Goff got 19th. You guys might beat one or two schools in the top 8, but I think the placement will range from 7th to 10th. (Dont take any of this personally lol)
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Re: Cornell Invitational (Division B and C)

Postby lumosityfan » February 10th, 2019, 5:33 pm

sciolyperson1 wrote:
drcubbin wrote:
builderguy123 wrote:Changing predictions already lol

1) Solon
2) Beckendorff
3) Community
4) Springhouse
5) Gelinas
6) Piedmont
7) Marie Murphy
8) SSA
9) Bay Academy
10) Eagle Hill
11) Goff
12) Bedford
13) Harlan Rowe


Bay Academy just took 4th and 2nd (right behind Springhouse) at Harvard today and our "predicted" place for Cornell goes from 8th to 9th? I know anything is possible, but I think that crystal ball needs a little polishing ;)


Solon, Beckendorff, us, Springhouse, Gelinas, Piedmont, Marie Murphy, and SSA are all top tier nats teams. The teams got 1st, 8th, 3rd, 5th, 11th, 6th, (missed nats cuz of roller bomb), and 13th. In addition, Bedford got 25th and Goff got 19th. You guys might beat one or two schools in the top 8, but I think the placement will range from 7th to 10th. (Dont take any of this personally lol)


And who says that Bay Academy can't reach those heights either? Remember that Springhouse just 3 years ago was in Bay Academy's shoes. Same with Beckendorff. So it's not crazy to think that Bay Academy can't upend a couple of those "top tier nats teams."
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Re: Cornell Invitational (Division B and C)

Postby sciolyperson1 » February 10th, 2019, 5:36 pm

lumosityfan wrote:
sciolyperson1 wrote:
drcubbin wrote:
Bay Academy just took 4th and 2nd (right behind Springhouse) at Harvard today and our "predicted" place for Cornell goes from 8th to 9th? I know anything is possible, but I think that crystal ball needs a little polishing ;)


Solon, Beckendorff, us, Springhouse, Gelinas, Piedmont, Marie Murphy, and SSA are all top tier nats teams. The teams got 1st, 8th, 3rd, 5th, 11th, 6th, (missed nats cuz of roller bomb), and 13th. In addition, Bedford got 25th and Goff got 19th. You guys might beat one or two schools in the top 8, but I think the placement will range from 7th to 10th. (Dont take any of this personally lol)


And who says that Bay Academy can't reach those heights either? Remember that Springhouse just 3 years ago was in Bay Academy's shoes. Same with Beckendorff. So it's not crazy to think that Bay Academy can't upend a couple of those "top tier nats teams."


Anything is possible, I never said that they couldn't beat them.
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Re: Cornell Invitational (Division B and C)

Postby Paypog » February 10th, 2019, 5:36 pm

lumosityfan wrote:
sciolyperson1 wrote:
drcubbin wrote:
Bay Academy just took 4th and 2nd (right behind Springhouse) at Harvard today and our "predicted" place for Cornell goes from 8th to 9th? I know anything is possible, but I think that crystal ball needs a little polishing ;)


Solon, Beckendorff, us, Springhouse, Gelinas, Piedmont, Marie Murphy, and SSA are all top tier nats teams. The teams got 1st, 8th, 3rd, 5th, 11th, 6th, (missed nats cuz of roller bomb), and 13th. In addition, Bedford got 25th and Goff got 19th. You guys might beat one or two schools in the top 8, but I think the placement will range from 7th to 10th. (Dont take any of this personally lol)


And who says that Bay Academy can't reach those heights either? Remember that Springhouse just 3 years ago was in Bay Academy's shoes. Same with Beckendorff. So it's not crazy to think that Bay Academy can't upend a couple of those "top tier nats teams."


Lol Springhouse 3 years ago did worse than they did 4 years ago.. By that logic Bay is gonna get worse.
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Re: Cornell Invitational (Division B and C)

Postby lumosityfan » February 10th, 2019, 5:39 pm

sciolyperson1 wrote:
lumosityfan wrote:
sciolyperson1 wrote:
Solon, Beckendorff, us, Springhouse, Gelinas, Piedmont, Marie Murphy, and SSA are all top tier nats teams. The teams got 1st, 8th, 3rd, 5th, 11th, 6th, (missed nats cuz of roller bomb), and 13th. In addition, Bedford got 25th and Goff got 19th. You guys might beat one or two schools in the top 8, but I think the placement will range from 7th to 10th. (Dont take any of this personally lol)


And who says that Bay Academy can't reach those heights either? Remember that Springhouse just 3 years ago was in Bay Academy's shoes. Same with Beckendorff. So it's not crazy to think that Bay Academy can't upend a couple of those "top tier nats teams."


Anything is possible, I never said that they couldn't beat them.


Except that your logic in thinking that Bay Academy went down from 8th to 9th is that the other 8 teams are "top tier nats teams" which is not the best case of logic if you're assuming that Bay Academy isn't one of those "top tier nats teams" (which through the results so far this year which is what we should be basing these predictions on as well show that they've done well against the "top tier nats teams" minus solon, beckendorff, piedmont, and marie murphy, whom they haven't faced so far this season)
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Re: Cornell Invitational (Division B and C)

Postby drcubbin » February 10th, 2019, 5:39 pm

lumosityfan wrote:
sciolyperson1 wrote:
drcubbin wrote:
Bay Academy just took 4th and 2nd (right behind Springhouse) at Harvard today and our "predicted" place for Cornell goes from 8th to 9th? I know anything is possible, but I think that crystal ball needs a little polishing ;)


Solon, Beckendorff, us, Springhouse, Gelinas, Piedmont, Marie Murphy, and SSA are all top tier nats teams. The teams got 1st, 8th, 3rd, 5th, 11th, 6th, (missed nats cuz of roller bomb), and 13th. In addition, Bedford got 25th and Goff got 19th. You guys might beat one or two schools in the top 8, but I think the placement will range from 7th to 10th. (Dont take any of this personally lol)


And who says that Bay Academy can't reach those heights either? Remember that Springhouse just 3 years ago was in Bay Academy's shoes. Same with Beckendorff. So it's not crazy to think that Bay Academy can't upend a couple of those "top tier nats teams."


Thanks Luminosity! That's pretty much how I feel. If we didn't think advancement was possible, how would this list ever change? And no offense taken sciolyperson. We just keep plugging away. If it happens, it happens. Like Luminosity says, all of those in the "top 8" had to start somewhere. Right?

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Re: Cornell Invitational (Division B and C)

Postby lumosityfan » February 10th, 2019, 5:40 pm

Paypog wrote:
lumosityfan wrote:
sciolyperson1 wrote:
Solon, Beckendorff, us, Springhouse, Gelinas, Piedmont, Marie Murphy, and SSA are all top tier nats teams. The teams got 1st, 8th, 3rd, 5th, 11th, 6th, (missed nats cuz of roller bomb), and 13th. In addition, Bedford got 25th and Goff got 19th. You guys might beat one or two schools in the top 8, but I think the placement will range from 7th to 10th. (Dont take any of this personally lol)


And who says that Bay Academy can't reach those heights either? Remember that Springhouse just 3 years ago was in Bay Academy's shoes. Same with Beckendorff. So it's not crazy to think that Bay Academy can't upend a couple of those "top tier nats teams."


Lol Springhouse 3 years ago did worse than they did 4 years ago.. By that logic Bay is gonna get worse.


Derp 4 years ago then. My point is when Springhouse started bursting onto the SciOly scene and first qualified for nats. (I had a feeling I had the years off...)
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Re: Cornell Invitational (Division B and C)

Postby Paypog » February 10th, 2019, 5:40 pm

lumosityfan wrote:
sciolyperson1 wrote:
lumosityfan wrote:
And who says that Bay Academy can't reach those heights either? Remember that Springhouse just 3 years ago was in Bay Academy's shoes. Same with Beckendorff. So it's not crazy to think that Bay Academy can't upend a couple of those "top tier nats teams."


Anything is possible, I never said that they couldn't beat them.


Except that your logic in thinking that Bay Academy went down from 8th to 9th is that the other 8 teams are "top tier nats teams" which is not the best case of logic if you're assuming that Bay Academy isn't one of those "top tier nats teams" (which through the results so far this year which is what we should be basing these predictions on as well show that they've done well against the "top tier nats teams" minus solon, beckendorff, piedmont, and marie murphy, whom they haven't faced so far this season)


Uh they haven't faced SSA yet..
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