Pennsylvania 2019

Anomaly
Exalted Member
Exalted Member
Posts: 473
Joined: February 17th, 2017, 10:46 am
Division: C
State: PA
Location: Somewhere in the known or unknown universe

Re: Pennsylvania 2019

Postby Anomaly » January 28th, 2019, 5:48 pm

sciolyperson1 wrote:
Paypog wrote:
Anomaly wrote:"Bala and Harlan are OP"...
...what about Springhouse?

Who? (let's see how long this will stay up till East removes it)


After Springhouse's "weak"ish performance at both Rustin (3rd and 22nd) and Garnet (2nd and 10th), its safe to say that they're a fair bit worse than last year. I wouldn't be surprised if Springhouse lost to SSA at states, or if Bala or Harlan made it to nats. Bala performed exceptionally well at Garnet (4th), with Harlan Rowe right behind them (just a 20 point difference). Cornell Invitational should be a good indicator on the four teams' performances.

That could very well be the case if either of those teams improve enough.
(also isn't bala not going to cornell?)
Orefield MS SO 2015-2018, Parkland HS SO 2019
Medal/Ribbon Count
Invitational: 24
Regional: 14
State: 5
Events:
Anatomy and Physiology, Disease Detectives, Codebusters, Write It Do It

sciolyperson1
Member
Member
Posts: 201
Joined: April 23rd, 2018, 7:13 pm
Division: B
State: NJ

Re: Pennsylvania 2019

Postby sciolyperson1 » January 28th, 2019, 5:49 pm

Anomaly wrote:
sciolyperson1 wrote:
Paypog wrote:Who? (let's see how long this will stay up till East removes it)


After Springhouse's "weak"ish performance at both Rustin (3rd and 22nd) and Garnet (2nd and 10th), its safe to say that they're a fair bit worse than last year. I wouldn't be surprised if Springhouse lost to SSA at states, or if Bala or Harlan made it to nats. Bala performed exceptionally well at Garnet (4th), with Harlan Rowe right behind them (just a 20 point difference). Cornell Invitational should be a good indicator on the four teams' performances.

That could very well be the case if either of those teams improve enough.
(also isn't bala not going to cornell?)


Yep, Bala isn't going to Cornell, but Harlan Rowe, Springhouse, and SSA are.
Community MS (NJ) Captain Dank Memes Area Homeschool
Events
Roller - Boomi - Mystery - Road - Buggy - WIDI - Duct Tape - Parasitology
Medal Count 2019: 18

User avatar
waffletree
Member
Member
Posts: 142
Joined: March 28th, 2018, 2:30 pm
Division: B
State: PA
Location: costco

Re: Pennsylvania 2019

Postby waffletree » January 28th, 2019, 5:49 pm

Anomaly wrote:
sciolyperson1 wrote:
Paypog wrote:Who? (let's see how long this will stay up till East removes it)


After Springhouse's "weak"ish performance at both Rustin (3rd and 22nd) and Garnet (2nd and 10th), its safe to say that they're a fair bit worse than last year. I wouldn't be surprised if Springhouse lost to SSA at states, or if Bala or Harlan made it to nats. Bala performed exceptionally well at Garnet (4th), with Harlan Rowe right behind them (just a 20 point difference). Cornell Invitational should be a good indicator on the four teams' performances.

That could very well be the case if either of those teams improve enough.
(also isn't bala not going to cornell?)

we arent, but ssa can finally be compared to springhouse and harlan rowe who can be compared to us
Bala Cynwyd Middle School, 8th grade

2018-19 events ~ Boomilever ~ ELG ~ Mystery Architecture ~ Battery Buggy ~
2017-18 events ~ Wright stuff ~ Towers ~ Mystery Architecture ~
Other events I've competed in ~ WIDI ~ Hovercraft ~ Herpetology ~ Duct Tape Challenge

Paypog
Member
Member
Posts: 48
Joined: February 26th, 2018, 1:22 pm
Division: B
State: PA
Location: In the multiverse

Re: Pennsylvania 2019

Postby Paypog » January 28th, 2019, 5:51 pm

sciolyperson1 wrote:
Anomaly wrote:
sciolyperson1 wrote:
After Springhouse's "weak"ish performance at both Rustin (3rd and 22nd) and Garnet (2nd and 10th), its safe to say that they're a fair bit worse than last year. I wouldn't be surprised if Springhouse lost to SSA at states, or if Bala or Harlan made it to nats. Bala performed exceptionally well at Garnet (4th), with Harlan Rowe right behind them (just a 20 point difference). Cornell Invitational should be a good indicator on the four teams' performances.

That could very well be the case if either of those teams improve enough.
(also isn't bala not going to cornell?)


Yep, Bala isn't going to Cornell, but Harlan Rowe, Springhouse, and SSA are.


Yeah I agree that this will be a great indicator for how all of the teams are doing. Also, SSA still hasn't gone to an invitational so nobody really knows how they are doing. Hopefully Solon and Cornell can provide some information on how the team is doing.
Dank Memes Area Homeschool 2019 Co-Captain

2017 Events: Anatomy (Big oof) and Road Scholar (Big oof)
2018 Events: Anatomy (Big oof), Ecology (Mild oof), Experimental Design( :D :D ), Herpetology (Mild oof)
2019 Events: Anatomy, Water Quality, Experimental Design, Herpetology, Circuit Lab

sciolyperson1
Member
Member
Posts: 201
Joined: April 23rd, 2018, 7:13 pm
Division: B
State: NJ

Re: Pennsylvania 2019

Postby sciolyperson1 » January 28th, 2019, 5:54 pm

Paypog wrote:
sciolyperson1 wrote:
Anomaly wrote:That could very well be the case if either of those teams improve enough.
(also isn't bala not going to cornell?)


Yep, Bala isn't going to Cornell, but Harlan Rowe, Springhouse, and SSA are.


Yeah I agree that this will be a great indicator for how all of the teams are doing. Also, SSA still hasn't gone to an invitational so nobody really knows how they are doing. Hopefully Solon and Cornell can provide some information on how the team is doing.


In addition to comparing teams to Solon, Beckendorff is a great indicator on how well they're doing. After their "downfall" at nats last year, their team seems stronger than ever, placing extremely well at UTA.
Community MS (NJ) Captain Dank Memes Area Homeschool
Events
Roller - Boomi - Mystery - Road - Buggy - WIDI - Duct Tape - Parasitology
Medal Count 2019: 18

Paypog
Member
Member
Posts: 48
Joined: February 26th, 2018, 1:22 pm
Division: B
State: PA
Location: In the multiverse

Re: Pennsylvania 2019

Postby Paypog » January 28th, 2019, 6:01 pm

sciolyperson1 wrote:
Paypog wrote:
sciolyperson1 wrote:
Yep, Bala isn't going to Cornell, but Harlan Rowe, Springhouse, and SSA are.


Yeah I agree that this will be a great indicator for how all of the teams are doing. Also, SSA still hasn't gone to an invitational so nobody really knows how they are doing. Hopefully Solon and Cornell can provide some information on how the team is doing.


In addition to comparing teams to Solon, Beckendorff is a great indicator on how well they're doing. After their "downfall" at nats last year, their team seems stronger than ever, placing extremely well at UTA.


Oh I meant Solon invitational..
Dank Memes Area Homeschool 2019 Co-Captain

2017 Events: Anatomy (Big oof) and Road Scholar (Big oof)
2018 Events: Anatomy (Big oof), Ecology (Mild oof), Experimental Design( :D :D ), Herpetology (Mild oof)
2019 Events: Anatomy, Water Quality, Experimental Design, Herpetology, Circuit Lab

User avatar
waffletree
Member
Member
Posts: 142
Joined: March 28th, 2018, 2:30 pm
Division: B
State: PA
Location: costco

Re: Pennsylvania 2019

Postby waffletree » January 28th, 2019, 6:58 pm

also feels like springhouse is dropping a bit compared to like last year cuz last year they beat community at gv by like 20 points and last year both of springhouse's teams beat bala by >100 points and like 70 points (rip)
this year however, community beat springhouse by like 60, and the gap between bala or harlan rowe and springhouse is closing up.
but cornell will be the first opportunity to get a real view on the all the top pa teams.
Bala Cynwyd Middle School, 8th grade

2018-19 events ~ Boomilever ~ ELG ~ Mystery Architecture ~ Battery Buggy ~
2017-18 events ~ Wright stuff ~ Towers ~ Mystery Architecture ~
Other events I've competed in ~ WIDI ~ Hovercraft ~ Herpetology ~ Duct Tape Challenge

User avatar
dxu46
Exalted Member
Exalted Member
Posts: 583
Joined: April 11th, 2017, 6:55 pm
Division: C
State: MO
Location: contemplating my life choices

Re: Pennsylvania 2019

Postby dxu46 » January 28th, 2019, 8:31 pm

1. SSA
2. BC
3. SMS
Ladue Science Olympiad!
Projected 2019 events: Experimental Design, Fossils, Sounds of Music?, WIDI, maybe others
B Division Dropout and C Division Charity Case
"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." - Benjamin Franklin
Friend me here!

User avatar
waffletree
Member
Member
Posts: 142
Joined: March 28th, 2018, 2:30 pm
Division: B
State: PA
Location: costco

Re: Pennsylvania 2019

Postby waffletree » January 29th, 2019, 9:31 am

dxu46 wrote:1. SSA
2. BC
3. SMS

lol thanks for your hope in bc
Bala Cynwyd Middle School, 8th grade

2018-19 events ~ Boomilever ~ ELG ~ Mystery Architecture ~ Battery Buggy ~
2017-18 events ~ Wright stuff ~ Towers ~ Mystery Architecture ~
Other events I've competed in ~ WIDI ~ Hovercraft ~ Herpetology ~ Duct Tape Challenge

Anomaly
Exalted Member
Exalted Member
Posts: 473
Joined: February 17th, 2017, 10:46 am
Division: C
State: PA
Location: Somewhere in the known or unknown universe

Re: Pennsylvania 2019

Postby Anomaly » January 29th, 2019, 9:51 am

waffletree wrote:
dxu46 wrote:1. SSA
2. BC
3. SMS

lol thanks for your hope in bc

heh that's been dxu's motto since last year
lets see if it actually comes true this year
Orefield MS SO 2015-2018, Parkland HS SO 2019
Medal/Ribbon Count
Invitational: 24
Regional: 14
State: 5
Events:
Anatomy and Physiology, Disease Detectives, Codebusters, Write It Do It

User avatar
kate!
Member
Member
Posts: 281
Joined: October 11th, 2017, 12:07 pm
Division: B
State: NY
Location: R.C. Murphy JHS

Re: Pennsylvania 2019

Postby kate! » January 29th, 2019, 11:46 am

Anomaly wrote:
waffletree wrote:
dxu46 wrote:1. SSA
2. BC
3. SMS

lol thanks for your hope in bc

heh that's been dxu's motto since last year
lets see if it actually comes true this year

wow irc memories
tbh springhouse has the potential to be overtaken based on their frankly mediocre performance this year compared to others? but we haven't seen ssa compete yet, so after cornell we'll see what happens
Last year I knew stuff about rocks, minerals, experiments, and ecosystems, yay!
Now I know stuff about amphibians, reptiles, and water, yay again!

User avatar
UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F
Exalted Member
Exalted Member
Posts: 1254
Joined: January 18th, 2015, 7:42 am
Division: C
State: PA
Location: (0, 0)
Contact:

Re: Pennsylvania 2019

Postby UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F » January 29th, 2019, 12:49 pm

4. Strath Haven?

User avatar
kate!
Member
Member
Posts: 281
Joined: October 11th, 2017, 12:07 pm
Division: B
State: NY
Location: R.C. Murphy JHS

Re: Pennsylvania 2019

Postby kate! » January 29th, 2019, 1:00 pm

UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F wrote:4. Strath Haven?

4 is a tie between Orefield and Strath Haven.
Last year I knew stuff about rocks, minerals, experiments, and ecosystems, yay!
Now I know stuff about amphibians, reptiles, and water, yay again!

User avatar
EastStroudsburg13
Administrator
Administrator
Posts: 2784
Joined: January 17th, 2009, 7:32 am
Division: Grad
State: MD
Location: At work trying to be a real adult
Contact:

Re: Pennsylvania 2019

Postby EastStroudsburg13 » January 29th, 2019, 4:04 pm

As a way to compare results, I normalized both the results from Rustin and Garnet Valley, for PA teams who were scored at both, to a 36-team tournament (since states is 36 teams). Then I averaged the two scores together for each team. Here are those scores ranked:

  1. Springhouse - 103
  2. Bala Cynwyd - 156
  3. Harlan Rowe - 168
  4. Strath Haven - 233
  5. Eagle View - 273
  6. Abington Heights - 313
  7. Stetson - 330
  8. Good Hope - 337
  9. Orefield - 444
  10. Haverford - 501
  11. Kutztown - 503
  12. Wyoming Seminary - 560
  13. JR Fugett - 563
  14. Devon Prep - 570
  15. Northley - 668

Now, this is clearly missing the teams from the western part of the state. But to me this looks pretty realistic (with perhaps scores slightly higher).
East Stroudsburg South Class of 2012, Alumnus of JT Lambert, Drexel University Class of 2017

Helpful Links
Wiki
Wiki Pages that Need Work
FAQ and SciOly FAQ Wiki
Chat (See IRC Wiki for more info)
BBCode Wiki


If you have any questions for me, always feel free to shoot me a PM.

builderguy135
Member
Member
Posts: 144
Joined: September 8th, 2018, 12:24 pm
Division: B
State: NJ

Re: Pennsylvania 2019

Postby builderguy135 » January 29th, 2019, 4:15 pm

EastStroudsburg13 wrote:As a way to compare results, I normalized both the results from Rustin and Garnet Valley, for PA teams who were scored at both, to a 36-team tournament (since states is 36 teams). Then I averaged the two scores together for each team. Here are those scores ranked:

  1. Springhouse - 103
  2. Bala Cynwyd - 156
  3. Harlan Rowe - 168
  4. Strath Haven - 233
  5. Eagle View - 273
  6. Abington Heights - 313
  7. Stetson - 330
  8. Good Hope - 337
  9. Orefield - 444
  10. Haverford - 501
  11. Kutztown - 503
  12. Wyoming Seminary - 560
  13. JR Fugett - 563
  14. Devon Prep - 570
  15. Northley - 668

Now, this is clearly missing the teams from the western part of the state. But to me this looks pretty realistic (with perhaps scores slightly higher).


Is there any accurate way to do this to rank all the nationals teams?
Community 2016-2019 Dank Memes Area Homeschool A Co-Captain ;)
2018-2019 Events
LISO/Rustin/Regs/Garnet/Cornell/States
Roller: 1/2/1/10/4/-
ELG: 1/1/x/1/1/-
Mystery: 1/8/20/1/8/-
Road: 1/5/2/3/1/-
Game: 1/x/x/x/x/-
Battery: x/1/x/x/6/-
Parasitology: x/6/x/1/4/-
Duct Tape: x/13/x/4/x/-


Return to “Regionals and States”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest