Way Too Early Predictions

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Re: Way Too Early Predictions

Postby whythelongface » January 9th, 2019, 7:10 pm

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CrayolaCrayon wrote:What about UPENN? They're pretty stacked.

SOUP is a great competition for judging the Northeast region in general, but historically Troy and Solon haven't showed. I think it unlikely that this trend will be broken; SOUP is a difficult competition, but it doesn't have the "prestige" of MIT, which I guess really does matter for Troy.

Unless they’ve made some last second decision that I don’t know about, Troy will be attending SOUP alongside many other top teams (most likely the most competitive invitational this year). While SOUP may not have the prestige of MIT, it is a great tournament and will still be a pretty good indicator of how many schools stack up to each other. SOUP Teams.

While I’m here might as well make my prediction:
1. Troy
2. Harriton
3. Solon
4. Mason
5. TX
6. Mounds View
7. Acton Boxborough
8. Mira Loma
9. NJ
10. New Trier

I was not aware of this, thanks for the correction. Didn't Troy only say they were going to SOUP because they're not going to MIT?
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Re: Way Too Early Predictions

Postby Unome » January 10th, 2019, 3:30 am

whythelongface wrote:
Riptide wrote:
whythelongface wrote:
SOUP is a great competition for judging the Northeast region in general, but historically Troy and Solon haven't showed. I think it unlikely that this trend will be broken; SOUP is a difficult competition, but it doesn't have the "prestige" of MIT, which I guess really does matter for Troy.

Unless they’ve made some last second decision that I don’t know about, Troy will be attending SOUP alongside many other top teams (most likely the most competitive invitational this year). While SOUP may not have the prestige of MIT, it is a great tournament and will still be a pretty good indicator of how many schools stack up to each other. SOUP Teams.

While I’m here might as well make my prediction:
1. Troy
2. Harriton
3. Solon
4. Mason
5. TX
6. Mounds View
7. Acton Boxborough
8. Mira Loma
9. NJ
10. New Trier

I was not aware of this, thanks for the correction. Didn't Troy only say they were going to SOUP because they're not going to MIT?

As I understand it, Troy chose Mira Loma over MIT, and decided on SOUP because they wanted a tournament where they wouldn't win 1st and 2nd. I think there's a thread on here somewhere about it.
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Re: Way Too Early Predictions

Postby Justin72835 » January 10th, 2019, 7:44 am

Unome wrote:As I understand it, Troy chose Mira Loma over MIT, and decided on SOUP because they wanted a tournament where they wouldn't win 1st and 2nd. I think there's a thread on here somewhere about it.

For those that are interested, this is the thread that Unome is referring to.
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Re: Way Too Early Predictions

Postby AlbatrossTree » January 10th, 2019, 10:13 am

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Lol good luck. They're Troy. They don't fall until they have fallen.

2016 wasn't that long ago...

I believe that Paypog is saying that you can't say that Troy will fall until it actually happens.

I'll go out on a limb and say that Troy will pull what they did at Nats several years ago and bomb an event or two (Wright Stuff was the issue that year if I remember correctly?). This time I would expect it to be Mason or Solon (Harriton is possible too) taking that top slot instead of Mira Loma though.

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Re: Way Too Early Predictions

Postby Alex-RCHS » January 11th, 2019, 8:02 pm

I'm disappointed that nobody has mentioned Enloe yet... Just like nobody saw them coming last year either. :D

MIT tomorrow will give us a better look at them, but I think they have a great chance to do well this year. Last year was the first time in many years that any team has completely ran away with NC at states. It makes me think that they might be able to focus more on nationals from the start of the year (I heard that placing top 10 as they did last year was not on their radar at the beginning of the year) and therefore do better this year.

With that being said, I did hear that they lost a lot of talent last year, so who knows.
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Re: Way Too Early Predictions

Postby pb5754[] » January 13th, 2019, 6:57 am

1. Acton-Boxborough
2. Troy
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Re: Way Too Early Predictions

Postby satvik03 » January 13th, 2019, 8:59 am

Troy is Troy, so...
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Re: Way Too Early Predictions

Postby mnoga » January 13th, 2019, 10:20 am

satvik03 wrote:Troy is Troy, so...


Mira Loma results:

Troy A 120
Troy B 140
Mtn View 180
Northwood 190
Monta Vista 219
Glen A Wilson 227

I believe Troy's scores were lower last year in this tourament, and Mtn View too. I was talking to one of the Troy Mentors and he implied that their team is not as strong (at least now) as last year and that they have work to do.

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Re: Way Too Early Predictions

Postby Unome » January 13th, 2019, 12:21 pm

mnoga wrote:
satvik03 wrote:Troy is Troy, so...


Mira Loma results:

Troy A 120
Troy B 140
Mtn View 180
Northwood 190
Monta Vista 219
Glen A Wilson 227

I believe Troy's scores were lower last year in this tourament, and Mtn View too. I was talking to one of the Troy Mentors and he implied that their team is not as strong (at least now) as last year and that they have work to do.

That does seem a little worse for them. Depends how the breakdown is of course, but I would have expected 30-40 points less.
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Re: Way Too Early Predictions

Postby mnoga » January 13th, 2019, 12:59 pm

Unome wrote:
mnoga wrote:
satvik03 wrote:Troy is Troy, so...


Mira Loma results:

Troy A 120
Troy B 140
Mtn View 180
Northwood 190
Monta Vista 219
Glen A Wilson 227

I believe Troy's scores were lower last year in this tourament, and Mtn View too. I was talking to one of the Troy Mentors and he implied that their team is not as strong (at least now) as last year and that they have work to do.

That does seem a little worse for them. Depends how the breakdown is of course, but I would have expected 30-40 points less.


I looked at 2018 score sheet, and Troy's results were 106 and 113. Mtn View was around 160. Northwood wasn't in the tournament last year (one of the better teams in SoCal), so perhaps one reason.

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Re: Way Too Early Predictions

Postby Pastaman202 » January 14th, 2019, 6:26 pm

Surprised no one is considering Stevenson because dwjhs has gotten 3 nats wins and by now they are all in Stevenson. They also did pretty darn good at Palatine.
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Re: Way Too Early Predictions

Postby Paypog » January 14th, 2019, 6:38 pm

Pastaman202 wrote:Surprised no one is considering Stevenson because dwjhs has gotten 3 nats wins and by now they are all in Stevenson. They also did pretty darn good at Palatine.


I understand your point, but doesn't DWJHS only have 2 nats wins?
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Re: Way Too Early Predictions

Postby Pastaman202 » January 15th, 2019, 5:38 am

Paypog wrote:
Pastaman202 wrote:Surprised no one is considering Stevenson because dwjhs has gotten 3 nats wins and by now they are all in Stevenson. They also did pretty darn good at Palatine.


I understand your point, but doesn't DWJHS only have 2 nats wins?


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Re: Way Too Early Predictions

Postby Rossyspsce » January 15th, 2019, 7:14 am

mnoga wrote:
satvik03 wrote:Troy is Troy, so...


Mira Loma results:

Troy A 120
Troy B 140
Mtn View 180
Northwood 190
Monta Vista 219
Glen A Wilson 227

I believe Troy's scores were lower last year in this tourament, and Mtn View too. I was talking to one of the Troy Mentors and he implied that their team is not as strong (at least now) as last year and that they have work to do.


From what I've heard and seen Troy splits their teams and has people soloing events at invitationals, so from this, I would say that it makes quite a difference when you have a team with solos getting 1st and 2nd. Idk anyone else got thoughts?

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Re: Way Too Early Predictions

Postby TheSquaad » January 16th, 2019, 9:31 am

A new post-MIT prediction:

1) Solon
2) Troy
3) Acton-Boxborough
4) Mason
5) 7L
6) Mounds View
7) Mira Loma
8) Harriton
9) Boca Raton
10) WWPN

It may seem a little crazy, but I don't think it's entirely unreasonable.

MIT showed that LASA and Clements have definite weaknesses this year, so I think 7L will make it out of TX again. Additionally, Harriton had an extremely sub-par performance, so I think they'll take a heavy drop.

Meanwhile Acton-Boxborough and Boca Raton had outstanding performances, so I'd expect them to jump.

Mason is supposedly weaker this year, and there are rumors that Troy is too (mainly I just want to see Troy fall). Solon is the only top 4 team from last year that appears to have maintained its strength, so I think they'll take the title.


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