Way Too Early Predictions

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Re: Way Too Early Predictions

Postby Paypog » January 17th, 2019, 3:23 pm

Anomaly wrote:
Paypog wrote:
Unome wrote:Div B:
1. Solon
2. Kennedy
3. Daniel Wright
4. WW-P Community
5. Piedmont
6. Meads Mill
7. Beckendorff
8. Gelinas
9. Springhouse
10. Tower Heights
11. Highlands
12. Longfellow
13. Jeffrey Trail/Kraemer
14. MI team 2
15. Hamilton
16. Ladue
17. Marie Murphy
18. Shady Side
19. Dodgen
20. Kealing
21. FSA
22. Bay Academy
23. Bedford
24. Chippewa
25. Fred J. Carnage


Dang. Unome do you really think SSA is gonna place that low after 13th last year?

you say you guys suck this year and then you go and criticize the predictions for being too low in expectations ;)


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Re: Way Too Early Predictions

Postby Paypog » January 17th, 2019, 3:24 pm

Unome wrote:
Paypog wrote:
Unome wrote:Div B:
1. Solon
2. Kennedy
3. Daniel Wright
4. WW-P Community
5. Piedmont
6. Meads Mill
7. Beckendorff
8. Gelinas
9. Springhouse
10. Tower Heights
11. Highlands
12. Longfellow
13. Jeffrey Trail/Kraemer
14. MI team 2
15. Hamilton
16. Ladue
17. Marie Murphy
18. Shady Side
19. Dodgen
20. Kealing
21. FSA
22. Bay Academy
23. Bedford
24. Chippewa
25. Fred J. Carnage


Dang. Unome do you really think SSA is gonna place that low after 13th last year?

No, I just threw this together in a few minutes. I didn't realize they were 13th last year, thought it was like 16th or something.


Oh Kk. I don't necessarily know if we are going to go up in overall placement, but I really think that if our team comes together, we can put up a fight this year.
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Re: Way Too Early Predictions

Postby Rossyspsce » January 17th, 2019, 7:18 pm

Unome wrote:1. Troy
2. Solon (pending future results, might move them up)
3. Mounds View (pay attention)
4. Mason/Centerville (even odds on either in my opinion)
5. Acton-Boxborough
6. Harriton
7. Clements (2 places lower if Seven Lakes, 4 places lower if LASA)
8. Mira Loma
9. Boca Raton
10. Columbia
11. WW-P North
12. Enloe
13. Northville (seems similar strength as last year)
14. Camas
15. Stevenson
16. Grand Haven (9th-16th was really close for me)
17. Ward Melville
18. Bayard Rustin/Lower Merion (best bets on these two)
19. New Trier
20. Clark (hype)
21. Madison West (Hamilton is getting strong)
22. Pembroke Hill
23. Carmel
24. Chattahoochee
25. Brookwood


Placing Camas at 14th is interesting, due to the bombs they've had at the two invitationals they've had so far. Also, they got second to Bothell, who went to nationals as of 2016. Inglemoor also seems a strong competitor in the state of Washington. Not sure how much this carries, but Inglemoor also holds the 2015-17 ms state champions, who would now be juniors and seniors with nationals experience.

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Re: Way Too Early Predictions

Postby pikachu4919 » January 17th, 2019, 7:50 pm

Bread wrote:
Unome wrote:Div B:
1. Solon
2. Kennedy
3. Daniel Wright
4. WW-P Community
5. Piedmont
6. Meads Mill
7. Beckendorff
8. Gelinas
9. Springhouse
10. Tower Heights
11. Highlands
12. Longfellow
13. Jeffrey Trail/Kraemer
14. MI team 2
15. Hamilton
16. Ladue
17. Marie Murphy
18. Shady Side
19. Dodgen
20. Kealing
21. FSA
22. Bay Academy
23. Bedford
24. Chippewa
25. Fred J. Carnage


Aww, No div-B Indiana team getting top 25? Unlucky.


I would have to disagree on Unome on that, I would put TJ as the team making it out (unless some huge upset occurs at State this year), and I would put them somewhere in the range of....17-23, personally, given how dominant they've been in Indiana over their probably around 30-year history. And correct me if I'm wrong, you've also started going to invites this year? (people have predicted other teams to win over TJ within IN simply because of lack of invitational data on TJ, but they've always gotten proved wrong at State). I would say the same range of predictions with Carmel, if they can get through state and get their game on for nats. I thought last year might have been an off-year (or even just a single off-day) for them, despite their really good performance at the state tournament (much better than when my year broke our 10+ year drought). I can't say for sure until I've seen how they stack up at UMich Invitational. However, they do look pretty strong this year, given the handful of results we have for them so far in comparison to teams like Lake Central, Bloomington South, and John Adams (we won't find out about comparison to Munster until UMich and we won't find out about comparison to Bloomington North until Regionals). They sent underclassmen teams to Whiting and got 1st and 2nd (and tied scores), which is really impressive and has never happened before this year ever since I started at Carmel, which was ...now 6.5 years ago (time flies, eh?). I'm pretty sure that they have a good chance of making it out of Indiana this year, and if they do, I'm sure they can probably move up more than one place from their 24th place finish last year.
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Re: Way Too Early Predictions

Postby Unome » January 18th, 2019, 5:24 am

pikachu4919 wrote:
Bread wrote:
Unome wrote:Div B:
1. Solon
2. Kennedy
3. Daniel Wright
4. WW-P Community
5. Piedmont
6. Meads Mill
7. Beckendorff
8. Gelinas
9. Springhouse
10. Tower Heights
11. Highlands
12. Longfellow
13. Jeffrey Trail/Kraemer
14. MI team 2
15. Hamilton
16. Ladue
17. Marie Murphy
18. Shady Side
19. Dodgen
20. Kealing
21. FSA
22. Bay Academy
23. Bedford
24. Chippewa
25. Fred J. Carnage


Aww, No div-B Indiana team getting top 25? Unlucky.


I would have to disagree on Unome on that, I would put TJ as the team making it out (unless some huge upset occurs at State this year), and I would put them somewhere in the range of....17-23, personally, given how dominant they've been in Indiana over their probably around 30-year history. And correct me if I'm wrong, you've also started going to invites this year? (people have predicted other teams to win over TJ within IN simply because of lack of invitational data on TJ, but they've always gotten proved wrong at State). I would say the same range of predictions with Carmel, if they can get through state and get their game on for nats. I thought last year might have been an off-year (or even just a single off-day) for them, despite their really good performance at the state tournament (much better than when my year broke our 10+ year drought). I can't say for sure until I've seen how they stack up at UMich Invitational. However, they do look pretty strong this year, given the handful of results we have for them so far in comparison to teams like Lake Central, Bloomington South, and John Adams (we won't find out about comparison to Munster until UMich and we won't find out about comparison to Bloomington North until Regionals). They sent underclassmen teams to Whiting and got 1st and 2nd (and tied scores), which is really impressive and has never happened before this year ever since I started at Carmel, which was ...now 6.5 years ago (time flies, eh?). I'm pretty sure that they have a good chance of making it out of Indiana this year, and if they do, I'm sure they can probably move up more than one place from their 24th place finish last year.

Ah, that was who my second Bedford was supposed to be...
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Re: Way Too Early Predictions

Postby Killboe » January 18th, 2019, 9:05 am

Div B:
1. Solon
2. Daniel Wright
3. Kennedy
4. Community
5. Mead Mill
6. Highlands
7. Springhouse
8. Gelinas
9. Springhouse
10. Tower Heights
11. Beckendorff
12. FSA
13. Jeffrey Trail/Kraemer
14. Longfellow
15. Piedmont
16. Mi team 2
17. Marie Murphy
18. Shady Side
19. Dodgen
20. Kealing
21. Ladue
22. Bay Academy
23. Bedford
24. Chippewa
25. Fred J. Carnage
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Re: Way Too Early Predictions

Postby IvanGe » January 18th, 2019, 9:33 am

Killboe wrote:Div B:
1. Solon
2. Daniel Wright
3. Kennedy
4. Community
5. Mead Mill
6. Highlands
7. Springhouse
8. Gelinas
9. Springhouse
10. Tower Heights
11. Beckendorff
12. FSA
13. Jeffrey Trail/Kraemer
14. Longfellow
15. Piedmont
16. Mi team 2
17. Marie Murphy
18. Shady Side
19. Dodgen
20. Kealing
21. Ladue
22. Bay Academy
23. Bedford
24. Chippewa
25. Fred J. Carnage



why is springhouse on there twice?
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Re: Way Too Early Predictions

Postby Bread » January 18th, 2019, 12:22 pm

Unome wrote:
pikachu4919 wrote:I would have to disagree on Unome on that, I would put TJ as the team making it out (unless some huge upset occurs at State this year), and I would put them somewhere in the range of....17-23, personally, given how dominant they've been in Indiana over their probably around 30-year history. And correct me if I'm wrong, you've also started going to invites this year? (people have predicted other teams to win over TJ within IN simply because of lack of invitational data on TJ, but they've always gotten proved wrong at State). I would say the same range of predictions with Carmel, if they can get through state and get their game on for nats. I thought last year might have been an off-year (or even just a single off-day) for them, despite their really good performance at the state tournament (much better than when my year broke our 10+ year drought). I can't say for sure until I've seen how they stack up at UMich Invitational. However, they do look pretty strong this year, given the handful of results we have for them so far in comparison to teams like Lake Central, Bloomington South, and John Adams (we won't find out about comparison to Munster until UMich and we won't find out about comparison to Bloomington North until Regionals). They sent underclassmen teams to Whiting and got 1st and 2nd (and tied scores), which is really impressive and has never happened before this year ever since I started at Carmel, which was ...now 6.5 years ago (time flies, eh?). I'm pretty sure that they have a good chance of making it out of Indiana this year, and if they do, I'm sure they can probably move up more than one place from their 24th place finish last year.
Ah, that was who my second Bedford was supposed to be...

I mean I guess you could say we started going to invites. we went to VU in 16, don't know how we placed their, we went in 17 and got like 10th because half out team was gone, and we didn't go last year because our builds weren't ready. We went again this year though and won, though we don't know by how much because they still haven't released the scores. If we were to make it to nats (That would be 30 years in a row!!!) I would say we would place around the low 20s. Our team is a bit weaker than last year, but definitely good enough to make it out of state (Though, Raymond is a little spooky looking at how they did at centerville).

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Re: Way Too Early Predictions

Postby Pettywap » January 18th, 2019, 1:21 pm

Div B:
1. Solon
2. Kennedy
3. Beckendorff
4. Daniel Wright
5. WW-P Community
6. Meads Mill
7. Piedmont
8. Gelinas
9. Kraemer
10. Springhouse
11. Longfellow
12. Highlands
13. Ladue
14. Shady Side
15.Tower Heights
16. Hamilton
17. Marie Murphy
18. Slauson/ MI team 2
19. Dodgen
20. Kealing
21. R.C Murphy
22. Bedford

I'll probably update this as the season goes on. This is just a start.
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Re: Way Too Early Predictions

Postby Galahad » January 18th, 2019, 5:06 pm

Pettywap wrote:Div B:
1. Solon
2. Kennedy
3. Beckendorff
4. Daniel Wright
5. WW-P Community
6. Meads Mill
7. Piedmont
8. Gelinas
9. Kraemer
10. Springhouse
11. Longfellow
12. Highlands
13. Ladue
14. Shady Side
15.Tower Heights
16. Hamilton
17. Marie Murphy
18. Slauson/ MI team 2
19. Dodgen
20. Kealing
21. R.C Murphy
22. Bedford

I'll probably update this as the season goes on. This is just a start.


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Re: Way Too Early Predictions

Postby builderguy135 » January 18th, 2019, 5:19 pm

Pettywap wrote:Div B:
1. Solon
2. Kennedy
3. Beckendorff
4. Daniel Wright
5. WW-P Community
6. Meads Mill
7. Piedmont
8. Gelinas
9. Kraemer
10. Springhouse
11. Longfellow
12. Highlands
13. Ladue
14. Shady Side
15.Tower Heights
16. Hamilton
17. Marie Murphy
18. Slauson/ MI team 2
19. Dodgen
20. Kealing
21. R.C Murphy
22. Bedford

I'll probably update this as the season goes on. This is just a start.


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Re: Way Too Early Predictions

Postby Anomaly » January 18th, 2019, 5:30 pm

builderguy135 wrote:
Pettywap wrote:Div B:
1. Solon
2. Kennedy
3. Beckendorff
4. Daniel Wright
5. WW-P Community
6. Meads Mill
7. Piedmont
8. Gelinas
9. Kraemer
10. Springhouse
11. Longfellow
12. Highlands
13. Ladue
14. Shady Side
15.Tower Heights
16. Hamilton
17. Marie Murphy
18. Slauson/ MI team 2
19. Dodgen
20. Kealing
21. R.C Murphy
22. Bedford

I'll probably update this as the season goes on. This is just a start.


we're too high

can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, cause your brother responded to the one other prediction where you guys were 4th as ":( "
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Re: Way Too Early Predictions

Postby sciolyperson1 » January 18th, 2019, 5:41 pm

Anomaly wrote:
builderguy135 wrote:
Pettywap wrote:Div B:
1. Solon
2. Kennedy
3. Beckendorff
4. Daniel Wright
5. WW-P Community
6. Meads Mill
7. Piedmont
8. Gelinas
9. Kraemer
10. Springhouse
11. Longfellow
12. Highlands
13. Ladue
14. Shady Side
15.Tower Heights
16. Hamilton
17. Marie Murphy
18. Slauson/ MI team 2
19. Dodgen
20. Kealing
21. R.C Murphy
22. Bedford

I'll probably update this as the season goes on. This is just a start.


we're too high

can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, cause your brother responded to the one other prediction where you guys were 4th as ":( "


lmao that was a joke smh
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Re: Way Too Early Predictions

Postby builderguy135 » January 18th, 2019, 5:52 pm

Anomaly wrote:
builderguy135 wrote:
Pettywap wrote:Div B:
1. Solon
2. Kennedy
3. Beckendorff
4. Daniel Wright
5. WW-P Community
6. Meads Mill
7. Piedmont
8. Gelinas
9. Kraemer
10. Springhouse
11. Longfellow
12. Highlands
13. Ladue
14. Shady Side
15.Tower Heights
16. Hamilton
17. Marie Murphy
18. Slauson/ MI team 2
19. Dodgen
20. Kealing
21. R.C Murphy
22. Bedford

I'll probably update this as the season goes on. This is just a start.


we're too high

can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, cause your brother responded to the one other prediction where you guys were 4th as ":( "


as of right now, not sarcastic :\
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Re: Way Too Early Predictions

Postby Kyanite » January 19th, 2019, 3:22 pm

Rossyspsce wrote:
Unome wrote:1. Troy
2. Solon (pending future results, might move them up)
3. Mounds View (pay attention)
4. Mason/Centerville (even odds on either in my opinion)
5. Acton-Boxborough
6. Harriton
7. Clements (2 places lower if Seven Lakes, 4 places lower if LASA)
8. Mira Loma
9. Boca Raton
10. Columbia
11. WW-P North
12. Enloe
13. Northville (seems similar strength as last year)
14. Camas
15. Stevenson
16. Grand Haven (9th-16th was really close for me)
17. Ward Melville
18. Bayard Rustin/Lower Merion (best bets on these two)
19. New Trier
20. Clark (hype)
21. Madison West (Hamilton is getting strong)
22. Pembroke Hill
23. Carmel
24. Chattahoochee
25. Brookwood


Placing Camas at 14th is interesting, due to the bombs they've had at the two invitationals they've had so far. Also, they got second to Bothell, who went to nationals as of 2016. Inglemoor also seems a strong competitor in the state of Washington. Not sure how much this carries, but Inglemoor also holds the 2015-17 ms state champions, who would now be juniors and seniors with nationals experience.

idk probably wrong but anyone else have thoughts?


Camas got second to Bothel due to the tiebreaker using first place medals, and the same tie occurred at Aviation last year except Camas won the tiebreaker, and well you saw how state went. Camas is often a late blooming team due to the time taken to refine their builds.


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