2020 Wright Stuff Parameters

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2020 Wright Stuff Parameters

Postby Creationist127 » May 14th, 2019, 5:36 am

Hello. I know it's a little too early to ask about this, as Nats aren't even over yet... but does anyone have any predictions/knowledge of the parameters for Wright Stuff next year? For example, a smaller wing chord, smaller wingspan for horizontal stab, motor mass or length limit, etc.?
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Re: 2020 Wright Stuff Parameters

Postby Rossyspsce » May 14th, 2019, 7:07 am

Hello. I know it's a little too early to ask about this, as Nats aren't even over yet... but does anyone have any predictions/knowledge of the parameters for Wright Stuff next year? For example, a smaller wing chord, smaller wingspan for horizontal stab, motor mass or length limit, etc.?
I honestly think some sort of bonus for a certain design or parameter will be added but I could be totally wrong also

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Re: 2020 Wright Stuff Parameters

Postby Unome » May 14th, 2019, 7:23 am

Hello. I know it's a little too early to ask about this, as Nats aren't even over yet... but does anyone have any predictions/knowledge of the parameters for Wright Stuff next year? For example, a smaller wing chord, smaller wingspan for horizontal stab, motor mass or length limit, etc.?
I honestly think some sort of bonus for a certain design or parameter will be added but I could be totally wrong also
Agreed. I would expect a bonus and a tightening of dimensions or such to decrease flight times.
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Re: 2020 Wright Stuff Parameters

Postby JasperKota » May 14th, 2019, 7:57 am

Potentially bringing back the dime bonus?
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Re: 2020 Wright Stuff Parameters

Postby jander14indoor » May 14th, 2019, 8:07 am

Time for my annual, "It doesn't matter what next years rules will be, if you just want to prepare for next year." speech.

So, it really doesn't matter what we do with the rules. You can prepare adequately using ANY years rules. If you can fly nationally competitive times with any one rule set, you will know what you need to do to prepare for the next set of rules in about 10 minutes. Might take a little longer to do the work to 'tune in' the exact rubber/prop mix, but that's it. Indoor flying skills are very transferable from one rule set to another.

If you want to prepare, pick ANY year rules, and get to nationally competitive times. If you are already there, perhaps pick an AMA event like Limited Penny Plane, or if you want a real challenge, EZB or F1D. Maybe fly a little heavier class to have a feel for performance on that end. Pick some oddball events, like payload, ornithopter, one designs like the Hanger Rat, full body rules like embryo endurance, build a canard, build a bi-plane. Learn to build and fly with competitive times over the summer. Perhaps participate in an AMA contest. Don't overdo it and HAVE FUN!

The idea is to build experience/expertise with building and trimming any light plane for endurance. Learn how to test and evaluate. Learn how to analyze data.

Then, when you get the actual rules for next year, like I said, you'll know what to do in a few minutes.

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Re: 2020 Wright Stuff Parameters

Postby coachchuckaahs » May 14th, 2019, 9:29 am

I agree with Jeff's assessment.

My kids took time off between States and Nationals and build and competed in LPP. These are considered the "heavy" class in AMA competition, but only weight 3.1g. This experience was very valuable in preparing for Nationals this year. Last summer, we ordered basic supplies, and we were building the week the rules hit the internet. Just had to adjust our drawings for the rule set and start building. Time in the gym is what led to success, more than specific design.

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Re: 2020 Wright Stuff Parameters

Postby CrayolaCrayon » May 14th, 2019, 9:45 am

Would be cool to see a pusher plane again..
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Re: 2020 Wright Stuff Parameters

Postby Creationist127 » May 15th, 2019, 3:48 pm

Thank you all for your advice!
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Re: 2020 Wright Stuff Parameters

Postby Maxout » May 16th, 2019, 8:55 am

Would be cool to see a pusher plane again..
I ran out of time to test a pusher this year. The weights are high enough that you could do one without sacrificing rigidity. With the tandems we've got, sliding the CG further aft with a pusher might have actually been the optimum solution.

As for preparing for the rules, well, expect the unexpected. Your best bet is to fly AMA classes and push them as hard as possible. Start with a P-18 kit from Lasercut or one of the advanced indoor kits from other vendors (shameless plug) and step things up a notch. Once you can hit 7-8 minutes with a LPP in a gym, you can challenge anyone at Wright Stuff.

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Re: 2020 Wright Stuff Parameters

Postby Rossyspsce » May 20th, 2019, 8:18 pm

Would be cool to see a pusher plane again..
I ran out of time to test a pusher this year. The weights are high enough that you could do one without sacrificing rigidity. With the tandems we've got, sliding the CG further aft with a pusher might have actually been the optimum solution.

As for preparing for the rules, well, expect the unexpected. Your best bet is to fly AMA classes and push them as hard as possible. Start with a P-18 kit from Lasercut or one of the advanced indoor kits from other vendors (shameless plug) and step things up a notch. Once you can hit 7-8 minutes with a LPP in a gym, you can challenge anyone at Wright Stuff.

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besides increased times, what design benefits would a pusher provide?

edit: and how does/would it provide a benefit?


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