Triggering the Vehicle

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Triggering the Vehicle

Post by gg19 » October 9th, 2019, 5:27 pm

What should I use to trigger the gravity vehicle?

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Re: Triggering the Vehicle

Post by MTV<=>Operator » October 14th, 2019, 8:57 am

gg19 wrote:
October 9th, 2019, 5:27 pm
What should I use to trigger the gravity vehicle?
I was thinking of using some sort of hook or claw mechanism that attaches to a loop on the back of the vehicle. It would be released by pushing the hook out of the loop or opening the claw with the pencil.
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Re: Triggering the Vehicle

Post by Lorant » October 21st, 2019, 7:22 pm

gg19 wrote:
October 9th, 2019, 5:27 pm
What should I use to trigger the gravity vehicle?
There is the option of sticking the pencil in a loop of sorts on the vehicle and then pulling it out to release the vehicle, seeing as the rules permit that the pencil be part of the actuating mechanism.
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Post by CPScienceDude » January 5th, 2020, 10:49 am

I'm using a gate latch and a spring
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Re: Triggering the Vehicle

Post by MTV<=>Operator » January 5th, 2020, 11:07 am

I plan on using two hooks that are connected (forces the vehicle into alignment)
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Re: Triggering the Vehicle

Post by mnoga » January 12th, 2020, 8:32 pm

So using the pencil as part of the release mechanism is ok? At the Mira Loma Invitational I saw a few teams hang their GV off the pencil. I'm not sure if the wording in the rules indicates this is legal?

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Re: Triggering the Vehicle

Post by knightmoves » January 13th, 2020, 9:56 am

mnoga wrote:
January 12th, 2020, 8:32 pm
So using the pencil as part of the release mechanism is ok? At the Mira Loma Invitational I saw a few teams hang their GV off the pencil. I'm not sure if the wording in the rules indicates this is legal?
Rule 5i. "The pencil may be used as all or part of the release mechanism".

But do note, also in that rule, "They may not touch.push the Vehicle, or the Ramp, to start it or hold it while actuating the release mechanism" so you may not, for example, use one hand to pull the pencil out while the other hand (or part of the same hand) applies counterpressure to the ramp.

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Re: Triggering the Vehicle

Post by mnoga » January 13th, 2020, 2:26 pm

knightmoves wrote:
January 13th, 2020, 9:56 am
mnoga wrote:
January 12th, 2020, 8:32 pm
So using the pencil as part of the release mechanism is ok? At the Mira Loma Invitational I saw a few teams hang their GV off the pencil. I'm not sure if the wording in the rules indicates this is legal?
Rule 5i. "The pencil may be used as all or part of the release mechanism".

But do note, also in that rule, "They may not touch.push the Vehicle, or the Ramp, to start it or hold it while actuating the release mechanism" so you may not, for example, use one hand to pull the pencil out while the other hand (or part of the same hand) applies counterpressure to the ramp.
Thx for the clarification.

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Re: Triggering the Vehicle

Post by MTV<=>Operator » January 16th, 2020, 6:32 pm

Lorant wrote:
October 21st, 2019, 7:22 pm
gg19 wrote:
October 9th, 2019, 5:27 pm
What should I use to trigger the gravity vehicle?
There is the option of sticking the pencil in a loop of sorts on the vehicle and then pulling it out to release the vehicle, seeing as the rules permit that the pencil be part of the actuating mechanism.
When you stick a pencil through a loop, the pencil has to be able to stay in place and hold the vehicle without anyone holding it in ready-to-run configuration?
If so, how do you keep the pencil from slipping out? Or does the weight of the vehicle keep it in place?
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Re: Triggering the Vehicle

Post by knightmoves » January 17th, 2020, 8:35 am

MTV<=>Operator wrote:
January 16th, 2020, 6:32 pm
When you stick a pencil through a loop, the pencil has to be able to stay in place and hold the vehicle without anyone holding it in ready-to-run configuration?
If so, how do you keep the pencil from slipping out? Or does the weight of the vehicle keep it in place?
The rules aren't quite as explicit about "has to be able to stay in place and hold the vehicle without anyone holding it" as they might be, but rule 3a does say "A release
mechanism must be included as part of the Ramp to hold the Vehicle in the ready-to-run configuration until triggered by the participants." 5i says that the pencil may be all or part of the mechanism. No rule says that the team members may be part of the mechanism.

Put that together, and I think you're right - the vehicle must stay in place without someone holding the pencil.

In the configuration you describe, the weight of the vehicle is usually sufficient to keep the pencil locked against whatever hole it's poked through.

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