Detector Building C

User avatar
Umaroth
Exalted Member
Exalted Member
Posts: 301
Joined: February 10th, 2018, 8:51 pm
Division: C
State: CA
Pronouns: He/Him/His
Location: Pretend hugging SIlverBreeze because social distancing
Has thanked: 73 times
Been thanked: 188 times

Re: Detector Building C

Post by Umaroth » September 14th, 2019, 1:30 pm

someone1580 wrote:
September 14th, 2019, 1:15 pm
On Amazon, there is an "Elegoo Starter Kit" which is basically the same as Arduino but a different name brand. Can I use that for the competition or are we restricted to using an Arduino/Raspberry Pi/TI Innovator microcontroller board?
Any microcontroller is allowed
Troy SciOly 2021 Co-Captain
Proud Padre of the Evola SciOly Program 2018-now
Dank Memes Area Homeschool Juggernaut 2018-now
Sierra Vista SciOly Co-Head Coach 2020-now
2021 Tryouts: Circuit, Code, Detector, DP, GeoMaps, Machines

The team may be gone, but the program lives on...
Umaroth's Userpage

hbonnes
Member
Member
Posts: 3
Joined: September 17th, 2019, 11:54 pm
Division: C
State: MT
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 0

Re: Detector Building C

Post by hbonnes » September 17th, 2019, 11:59 pm

Would it be alright to create our own waterproofing on a thermistor? As far as I know the rules states you can not use preconstructed ones which I assume allows you to make your own?

User avatar
gz839918
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 126
Joined: April 27th, 2019, 6:40 pm
Division: Grad
State: NC
Pronouns: He/Him/His
Location: in the 317 or the 919 :)
Has thanked: 328 times
Been thanked: 222 times
Contact:

Re: Detector Building C

Post by gz839918 » September 18th, 2019, 7:08 am

hbonnes wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 11:59 pm
Would it be alright to create our own waterproofing on a thermistor? As far as I know the rules states you can not use preconstructed ones which I assume allows you to make your own?
Yes, this is allowed. In fact, the event expects you to have waterproofing: in competition, the event supervisor will be testing the durability of your device by submerging it underwater. As part of your design log, you'll be describing how you made your detector waterproof, so this will help the event supervisor to tell that you made the waterproofing yourself and that you didn't use a thermistor with waterproofing already applied by the manufacturer.
I ❤ sounds of music! About meRate my tests

Carmel High School ’19
The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill ’23

YeagerTheCat
Member
Member
Posts: 39
Joined: January 29th, 2018, 8:33 am
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 0

Re: Detector Building C

Post by YeagerTheCat » September 18th, 2019, 7:11 am

Absolutely. It is part of the fun/misery :-)

hbonnes
Member
Member
Posts: 3
Joined: September 17th, 2019, 11:54 pm
Division: C
State: MT
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 0

Re: Detector Building C

Post by hbonnes » September 18th, 2019, 10:26 am

I figured, wording just had me confused!

User avatar
dxu46
Exalted Member
Exalted Member
Posts: 798
Joined: April 11th, 2017, 6:55 pm
Division: C
State: MO
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 0

Re: Detector Building C

Post by dxu46 » September 18th, 2019, 4:45 pm

gz839918 wrote:
September 18th, 2019, 7:08 am
hbonnes wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 11:59 pm
Would it be alright to create our own waterproofing on a thermistor? As far as I know the rules states you can not use preconstructed ones which I assume allows you to make your own?
Yes, this is allowed. In fact, the event expects you to have waterproofing: in competition, the event supervisor will be testing the durability of your device by submerging it underwater. As part of your design log, you'll be describing how you made your detector waterproof, so this will help the event supervisor to tell that you made the waterproofing yourself and that you didn't use a thermistor with waterproofing already applied by the manufacturer.
Is this even on the rules? I know this was a thing for the trial event but I don't see anything on the official rules about having to withstand a water test.

User avatar
Umaroth
Exalted Member
Exalted Member
Posts: 301
Joined: February 10th, 2018, 8:51 pm
Division: C
State: CA
Pronouns: He/Him/His
Location: Pretend hugging SIlverBreeze because social distancing
Has thanked: 73 times
Been thanked: 188 times

Re: Detector Building C

Post by Umaroth » September 18th, 2019, 5:05 pm

dxu46 wrote:
September 18th, 2019, 4:45 pm
gz839918 wrote:
September 18th, 2019, 7:08 am
hbonnes wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 11:59 pm
Would it be alright to create our own waterproofing on a thermistor? As far as I know the rules states you can not use preconstructed ones which I assume allows you to make your own?
Yes, this is allowed. In fact, the event expects you to have waterproofing: in competition, the event supervisor will be testing the durability of your device by submerging it underwater. As part of your design log, you'll be describing how you made your detector waterproof, so this will help the event supervisor to tell that you made the waterproofing yourself and that you didn't use a thermistor with waterproofing already applied by the manufacturer.
Is this even on the rules? I know this was a thing for the trial event but I don't see anything on the official rules about having to withstand a water test.
I mean if the probe is measuring the temperature of water I'd assume it would have to be waterproof to put it in safely...
Troy SciOly 2021 Co-Captain
Proud Padre of the Evola SciOly Program 2018-now
Dank Memes Area Homeschool Juggernaut 2018-now
Sierra Vista SciOly Co-Head Coach 2020-now
2021 Tryouts: Circuit, Code, Detector, DP, GeoMaps, Machines

The team may be gone, but the program lives on...
Umaroth's Userpage

User avatar
lindsmaurer
Member
Member
Posts: 46
Joined: May 16th, 2018, 11:57 am
Division: C
State: OH
Location: Home
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 3 times

Re: Detector Building C

Post by lindsmaurer » September 18th, 2019, 5:38 pm

Umaroth wrote:
September 18th, 2019, 5:05 pm
dxu46 wrote:
September 18th, 2019, 4:45 pm
gz839918 wrote:
September 18th, 2019, 7:08 am


Yes, this is allowed. In fact, the event expects you to have waterproofing: in competition, the event supervisor will be testing the durability of your device by submerging it underwater. As part of your design log, you'll be describing how you made your detector waterproof, so this will help the event supervisor to tell that you made the waterproofing yourself and that you didn't use a thermistor with waterproofing already applied by the manufacturer.
Is this even on the rules? I know this was a thing for the trial event but I don't see anything on the official rules about having to withstand a water test.
I mean if the probe is measuring the temperature of water I'd assume it would have to be waterproof to put it in safely...
Dxu is right that there’s no boiling water test or durability test anymore, but it still has to be waterproof...
Solon HS Junior Captain
DMAH
Sassy #137
1-3 placements: 40
Medals + ribbons: 72
 Circuits (4), Code, Detector (1), GLM, Gravity (8), Sounds
Would’ve done first four at states ;-;
 Circuits, Code, Detector, GLM, Dynamic, Machines? Sounds? Gravity?

hbonnes
Member
Member
Posts: 3
Joined: September 17th, 2019, 11:54 pm
Division: C
State: MT
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 0

Re: Detector Building C

Post by hbonnes » September 18th, 2019, 9:08 pm

If I were to have my the microcontroller and displays in a small box for example, and have the sensor with a wire with the sensor coming out of the box with the minimum 30cm waterproofed, would this be a valid build? The wording "The sensor and wires/cables, together, must be a minimum of 30.0 cm in length" makes me think something like this may be valid, but some clarification would be nice!

knightmoves
Member
Member
Posts: 284
Joined: April 26th, 2018, 6:40 pm
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 11 times

Re: Detector Building C

Post by knightmoves » September 19th, 2019, 6:51 am

hbonnes wrote:
September 18th, 2019, 9:08 pm
If I were to have my the microcontroller and displays in a small box for example, and have the sensor with a wire with the sensor coming out of the box with the minimum 30cm waterproofed, would this be a valid build? The wording "The sensor and wires/cables, together, must be a minimum of 30.0 cm in length" makes me think something like this may be valid, but some clarification would be nice!
Why wouldn't it be valid? It fits the rules. You've got 30cm of sensor / wire / cable that fits through a 5cm hole. Nothing in the rules says that you have to use a laptop or calculator for programming and display - just that you can if you like. If you want to build a device with pushbuttons to adjust the temperature ranges, you are free to do so.

Locked

Return to “Detector Building C”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest