Elastic Launched Glider B

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Elastic Launched Glider B

Postby windu34 » August 13th, 2019, 11:56 am

Elastic Launched Glider B: Prior to the tournament teams design, construct, and test elastic launched gliders to achieve the maximum time aloft.

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Re: Elastic Launched Glider B

Postby builderguy135 » September 3rd, 2019, 3:47 am

Canard.

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Re: Elastic Launched Glider B

Postby bjt4888 » September 3rd, 2019, 11:40 am

This bonus was used several years ago too. My teams built a canard for that year, but ended up getting a better score using a conventional flapper.

Worth trying the canard yourself though.

It was easy enough to get them to glide well, but trimming the transition was challenging.

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Re: Elastic Launched Glider B

Postby NewSciolyer » September 3rd, 2019, 5:00 pm

So if the starting bonus and the fuelselage bonus is also applied, that means a 16 second canard will beat a 20 second flapped glider?

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Re: Elastic Launched Glider B

Postby Maxout » September 4th, 2019, 9:21 am

So if the starting bonus and the fuelselage bonus is also applied, that means a 16 second canard will beat a 20 second flapped glider?
You'll never see a competitive glider that doesn't get the fuselage bonus. It's a stupid bonus because the stopwatch already gives a bonus to long models.

The canard bonus is a wild goose chase. I got a canard to do 30 seconds from about 30 feet. It's a royal pain in the neck and I'm still holding out on releasing the plans as it's nothing short of Pandora's box.

Conventional models are doing true 1 ft/sec sink rates this year, which is nice. They fly slower, so they transition better. Bottom line, if you avoid getting distracted by the rabbit trails, it's going to be a good year for gliders.
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Re: Elastic Launched Glider B

Postby NewSciolyer » September 4th, 2019, 4:08 pm

I'm expecting slightly shorter flight times because of the 2cm cut on wingspan, but will the minimum weight of 3 grams make up for the smaller wingspan? Maxout, could part of your trouble with the canard be because you're trying to use the same horizontal stabilizer for the forewing? I'm thinking maybe a long and skinny one with a higher incidence would work better? 30 seconds in a 30 feet ceiling with a canard plane is still amazing! I doubt my glider last year could even beat that. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Elastic Launched Glider B

Postby NewSciolyer » September 7th, 2019, 11:01 am

Maxout,

I have a question for you. What is the flap material that you use for your kits? It seems to me that the flaps in the Freedom Flights kits are stiff and don't bend very well. However, on your Super Protege, the flaps naturally bends down when you did the European style cuts.

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Re: Elastic Launched Glider B

Postby Maxout » September 7th, 2019, 12:30 pm

Maxout,

I have a question for you. What is the flap material that you use for your kits? It seems to me that the flaps in the Freedom Flights kits are stiff and don't bend very well. However, on your Super Protege, the flaps naturally bends down when you did the European style cuts.

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Re: Elastic Launched Glider B

Postby Maxout » September 7th, 2019, 12:31 pm

I'm expecting slightly shorter flight times because of the 2cm cut on wingspan, but will the minimum weight of 3 grams make up for the smaller wingspan? Maxout, could part of your trouble with the canard be because you're trying to use the same horizontal stabilizer for the forewing? I'm thinking maybe a long and skinny one with a higher incidence would work better? 30 seconds in a 30 feet ceiling with a canard plane is still amazing! I doubt my glider last year could even beat that. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Good build light and trim carefully.

The aspect ratio is something I need to explore more. We'll see what happens.
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Re: Elastic Launched Glider B

Postby NewSciolyer » September 9th, 2019, 3:00 pm

Do you guys have any tips to build a symmetrical wing? Sometimes I'm having trouble with making both wings have the same amount of lift. A little might be a good thing, but sometimes I end up with planes dive bombing duing transition. Thanks!


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