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The reason I brought up orgo chem is because I did a couple of invitational tests as practice at home and a few of the questions were quite challenging.
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eagerlearner102 wrote: September 15th, 2019, 10:50 am The reason I brought up orgo chem is because I did a couple of invitational tests as practice at home and a few of the questions were quite challenging.
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It definitely depends on the test writer. I don't think organic chemistry is necessary, but it could be included. (of course there is an overlap between orgo and biochem). I would stick with biochemistry rather than orgo. You do not need to know topics such as edman degradation, but you should know anfinsen dogma, hydrophobic effect, and thermodynamic stability of proteins
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zsg11 wrote: September 12th, 2019, 7:47 pm Does anyone have an idea of when the MSOE website will be updated for this season?
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jaah5211 wrote: September 15th, 2019, 9:39 pm
eagerlearner102 wrote: September 15th, 2019, 10:50 am The reason I brought up orgo chem is because I did a couple of invitational tests as practice at home and a few of the questions were quite challenging.
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It definitely depends on the test writer. I don't think organic chemistry is necessary, but it could be included. (of course there is an overlap between orgo and biochem). I would stick with biochemistry rather than orgo. You do not need to know topics such as edman degradation, but you should know anfinsen dogma, hydrophobic effect, and thermodynamic stability of proteins
Which textbook would I use for biochemistry? I currently only have Campbell biology.
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eagerlearner102 wrote: September 17th, 2019, 7:44 am
jaah5211 wrote: September 15th, 2019, 9:39 pm
eagerlearner102 wrote: September 15th, 2019, 10:50 am The reason I brought up orgo chem is because I did a couple of invitational tests as practice at home and a few of the questions were quite challenging.
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It definitely depends on the test writer. I don't think organic chemistry is necessary, but it could be included. (of course there is an overlap between orgo and biochem). I would stick with biochemistry rather than orgo. You do not need to know topics such as edman degradation, but you should know anfinsen dogma, hydrophobic effect, and thermodynamic stability of proteins
Which textbook would I use for biochemistry? I currently only have Campbell biology.
Campbell biology is a great start. I would find books that focuses on proteins.
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AlfWeg wrote: September 14th, 2019, 6:31 pm
eagerlearner102 wrote: September 14th, 2019, 4:48 pm What textbooks should I read for Protein Modeling? Would an organic chemistry textbook chapter be a good idea?
The papers that MSOE puts on its website are a great read(last year’s papers are good for understanding CRISPR), and ig scioly wiki is a decent starting point(I think it’s all factually correct to :P ). Naw, def not orgochem, that just doesn’t really help imo
For all of the questions about proteins, I think studying biochemistry would help. Of course, basic orgo knowledge may be useful too.
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This sounds kind of extra but would any of you recommend Lehninger Principles of Biochemistry? I went on a Scioly wiki link about protein modeling that referenced to chapters in Lehninger.
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The CBM Website has been updated for this year!

http://cbm.msoe.edu/scienceOlympiad/participant2.php
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CookiePie1 wrote: September 29th, 2019, 11:37 am The CBM Website has been updated for this year!

http://cbm.msoe.edu/scienceOlympiad/participant2.php
And there seems to be some extra actually useful videos this year!
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Is it just me or did this confusion come up last year as well? One paper per team or person??
Each participant may bring one 8.5'' x 11'' sheet of paper
and in the next line it specifies
Each team will impound...
This year it seems like one paper per person?
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