Experimental Design B/C

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Re: Experimental Design B/C

Post by TheChiScientist » September 15th, 2018, 1:49 pm

dxu46 wrote:
Jacobi wrote:I just realized that you can load the rubric into your programmable graphing calculator.

No more rubric memorization!
Only division C though :(
SHHHHHHH... We keep that to ourselves ;) (No need for them to add to the rules...)
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Re: Experimental Design B/C

Post by Jacobi » September 16th, 2018, 7:51 am

TheChiScientist wrote:
dxu46 wrote:
Jacobi wrote:I just realized that you can load the rubric into your programmable graphing calculator.

No more rubric memorization!
Only division C though :(
SHHHHHHH... We keep that to ourselves ;) (No need for them to add to the rules...)
OK, will do.


Wait... what did I say about writing the rubric in my calculator? ;)

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Re: Experimental Design B/C

Post by Jacobi » September 16th, 2018, 7:55 am

Unome wrote:
(then again, do we really want whatever else Inquiry would give us instead?)
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Re: Experimental Design B/C

Post by Jesusfather123 » September 16th, 2018, 10:39 pm

Hi,
Can someone explain the new rule for ED this yr? Does it mean , the whole team have to perform the experiment and then move on the whole writing process?
Thanks!

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Re: Experimental Design B/C

Post by kate! » September 17th, 2018, 12:06 pm

Jesusfather123 wrote:Hi,
Can someone explain the new rule for ED this yr? Does it mean , the whole team have to perform the experiment and then move on the whole writing process?
Thanks!
In the first twenty minutes, the only thing you can do is do the experiment and write the basics (the first half of the rubric.) This gives your whole team more time to focus on the actual experiment rather than trying to write down errors and observations. In the next twenty minutes, you'll have finished the experiment, so it'll be much easier to now focus solely on analysis. This is also to prevent people from making up data and forces you to perform a thorough experiment. It depends on how you split up the rubric, but it should be mostly the same as last year, except for the fact that you now have designated times for doing the experiment and analyzing it.
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Re: Experimental Design B/C

Post by Unome » September 17th, 2018, 5:00 pm

kate! wrote:
Jesusfather123 wrote:Hi,
Can someone explain the new rule for ED this yr? Does it mean , the whole team have to perform the experiment and then move on the whole writing process?
Thanks!
In the first twenty minutes, the only thing you can do is do the experiment and write the basics (the first half of the rubric.) This gives your whole team more time to focus on the actual experiment rather than trying to write down errors and observations. In the next twenty minutes, you'll have finished the experiment, so it'll be much easier to now focus solely on analysis. This is also to prevent people from making up data and forces you to perform a thorough experiment. It depends on how you split up the rubric, but it should be mostly the same as last year, except for the fact that you now have designated times for doing the experiment and analyzing it.
This is almost certainly the main reason for the change.
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Re: Experimental Design B/C

Post by TheChiScientist » September 17th, 2018, 5:09 pm

Unome wrote:
kate! wrote:
Jesusfather123 wrote:Hi,
Can someone explain the new rule for ED this yr? Does it mean , the whole team have to perform the experiment and then move on the whole writing process?
Thanks!
In the first twenty minutes, the only thing you can do is do the experiment and write the basics (the first half of the rubric.) This gives your whole team more time to focus on the actual experiment rather than trying to write down errors and observations. In the next twenty minutes, you'll have finished the experiment, so it'll be much easier to now focus solely on analysis. This is also to prevent people from making up data and forces you to perform a thorough experiment. It depends on how you split up the rubric, but it should be mostly the same as last year, except for the fact that you now have designated times for doing the experiment and analyzing it.
This is almost certainly the main reason for the change.
It is but this is most certainly annoying for teams that worked with legitimate data (aka my team) and started immediately on analysis as soon as results occurred. It takes me about 15 mins to make a "perfect analysis" so it will be a painful process. :x This certainly will change the method of operations for many top-tier teams.
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Re: Experimental Design B/C

Post by dxu46 » September 17th, 2018, 7:26 pm

TheChiScientist wrote:
Unome wrote:
kate! wrote: In the first twenty minutes, the only thing you can do is do the experiment and write the basics (the first half of the rubric.) This gives your whole team more time to focus on the actual experiment rather than trying to write down errors and observations. In the next twenty minutes, you'll have finished the experiment, so it'll be much easier to now focus solely on analysis. This is also to prevent people from making up data and forces you to perform a thorough experiment. It depends on how you split up the rubric, but it should be mostly the same as last year, except for the fact that you now have designated times for doing the experiment and analyzing it.
This is almost certainly the main reason for the change.
It is but this is most certainly annoying for teams that worked with legitimate data (aka my team) and started immediately on analysis as soon as results occurred. It takes me about 15 mins to make a "perfect analysis" so it will be a painful process. :x This certainly will change the method of operations for many top-tier teams.
The new format seems to emphasize teamwork as the only way to get everything done is to work as a very solid team and communicate well.

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Re: Experimental Design B/C

Post by OrigamiPlanet » September 19th, 2018, 8:35 pm

dxu46 wrote:
TheChiScientist wrote:
Unome wrote: This is almost certainly the main reason for the change.
It is but this is most certainly annoying for teams that worked with legitimate data (aka my team) and started immediately on analysis as soon as results occurred. It takes me about 15 mins to make a "perfect analysis" so it will be a painful process. :x This certainly will change the method of operations for many top-tier teams.
The new format seems to emphasize teamwork as the only way to get everything done is to work as a very solid team and communicate well.
While I certainly do enjoy that idea of teamwork, the only reason our team placed consistently was the independent roles each of us assumed and practiced; now with the new time impediment, this may pose a new challenge in keeping up with the scores now, but then again if other teams did the same they also face the same trouble. Regardless, I would still redistribute (or distribute if you're new) the roles again to try and fit the time management. Just my thought, so take it with a grain of salt ;)
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Re: Experimental Design B/C

Post by Jacobi » September 20th, 2018, 7:07 am

OrigamiPlanet wrote:
dxu46 wrote:
TheChiScientist wrote: It is but this is most certainly annoying for teams that worked with legitimate data (aka my team) and started immediately on analysis as soon as results occurred. It takes me about 15 mins to make a "perfect analysis" so it will be a painful process. :x This certainly will change the method of operations for many top-tier teams.
The new format seems to emphasize teamwork as the only way to get everything done is to work as a very solid team and communicate well.
While I certainly do enjoy that idea of teamwork, the only reason our team placed consistently was the independent roles each of us assumed and practiced; now with the new time impediment, this may pose a new challenge in keeping up with the scores now, but then again if other teams did the same they also face the same trouble. Regardless, I would still redistribute (or distribute if you're new) the roles again to try and fit the time management. Just my thought, so take it with a grain of salt ;)
It may not have much merit, but here is my XPD grouping list:

Writer (52 points)
Manages Papers, A, B, C, D, E, M, Assists Others

Data Collector (36 points)
Runs Experiment, G, H, I, J

Analyzer (22 points)
Runs Experiment, F, K, L

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