Herpetology B/C

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Re: Herpetology B/C

Post by Unome » February 1st, 2019, 2:53 pm

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Is Wikipedia a super rel able resource though?
*reliable
It definitely is to a degree, wiki has a bad reputation but it has gotten a lot more reliable in the past couple years. I used it as a last resort for some information but I always starred the information or put it into italics so I would remember that the information could be less reliable. I would often just use the wiki pages for the reference links at the bottom as they were often reputable sites.
Reliable information and unreliable information are relatively straightforward to distinguish. I would recommend using as many sources as you can, and cross-referencing them.
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Re: Herpetology B/C

Post by NordoniaMS » February 5th, 2019, 4:03 am

Good Morning.
I have a question about using a field guide in the binder. The rules states: Each team may bring one 2019 Official National Herpetology List as well as one two-inch or smaller standard binder containing information in any form and from any source attached using the available
rings.

If the field guide is attached using a magazine holder for a binder is that acceptable? I know that having it in a sleeve was not the last invitational we went to. They made the kids choose between the book and the binder.

Thanks in advance for any clarification on this!
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Re: Herpetology B/C

Post by DontWorryAboutIt » February 5th, 2019, 5:22 am

NordoniaMS wrote:Good Morning.
I have a question about using a field guide in the binder. The rules states: Each team may bring one 2019 Official National Herpetology List as well as one two-inch or smaller standard binder containing information in any form and from any source attached using the available
rings.

If the field guide is attached using a magazine holder for a binder is that acceptable? I know that having it in a sleeve was not the last invitational we went to. They made the kids choose between the book and the binder.

Thanks in advance for any clarification on this!
:)
Gina
I don't have the answer to the question of whether a magazine holder for a binder is acceptable. However I would suggest if feasible, scan and copy the pages from the field guide and then just hole punch them and put them into your bind. That way you won't have to worry about whether the ES's will allow it or not.

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Re: Herpetology B/C

Post by NordoniaMS » February 5th, 2019, 6:15 am

DontWorryAboutIt wrote:
NordoniaMS wrote:Good Morning.
I have a question about using a field guide in the binder. The rules states: Each team may bring one 2019 Official National Herpetology List as well as one two-inch or smaller standard binder containing information in any form and from any source attached using the available
rings.

If the field guide is attached using a magazine holder for a binder is that acceptable? I know that having it in a sleeve was not the last invitational we went to. They made the kids choose between the book and the binder.

Thanks in advance for any clarification on this!
:)
Gina
I don't have the answer to the question of whether a magazine holder for a binder is acceptable. However I would suggest if feasible, scan and copy the pages from the field guide and then just hole punch them and put them into your bind. That way you won't have to worry about whether the ES's will allow it or not.


Thank you. We thought about doing that. It is just a lot of paper and ink the school would be spending money on.

NEW question regarding the book.....Are post it notes permitted in the book?

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Re: Herpetology B/C

Post by cbrant554 » February 5th, 2019, 7:08 am

NordoniaMS wrote:
DontWorryAboutIt wrote:
NordoniaMS wrote:Good Morning.
I have a question about using a field guide in the binder. The rules states: Each team may bring one 2019 Official National Herpetology List as well as one two-inch or smaller standard binder containing information in any form and from any source attached using the available
rings.

If the field guide is attached using a magazine holder for a binder is that acceptable? I know that having it in a sleeve was not the last invitational we went to. They made the kids choose between the book and the binder.

Thanks in advance for any clarification on this!
:)
Gina
I don't have the answer to the question of whether a magazine holder for a binder is acceptable. However I would suggest if feasible, scan and copy the pages from the field guide and then just hole punch them and put them into your bind. That way you won't have to worry about whether the ES's will allow it or not.


Thank you. We thought about doing that. It is just a lot of paper and ink the school would be spending money on.

NEW question regarding the book.....Are post it notes permitted in the book?
If your trying to use a book in competition that is no longer allowed, but in the binder I would say no because the rules state that all information needs to be in the rings of the binder.

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Re: Herpetology B/C

Post by emmalasagna » February 5th, 2019, 9:12 am

DontWorryAboutIt wrote:
NordoniaMS wrote:Good Morning.
I have a question about using a field guide in the binder. The rules states: Each team may bring one 2019 Official National Herpetology List as well as one two-inch or smaller standard binder containing information in any form and from any source attached using the available
rings.

If the field guide is attached using a magazine holder for a binder is that acceptable? I know that having it in a sleeve was not the last invitational we went to. They made the kids choose between the book and the binder.

Thanks in advance for any clarification on this!
:)
Gina
I don't have the answer to the question of whether a magazine holder for a binder is acceptable. However I would suggest if feasible, scan and copy the pages from the field guide and then just hole punch them and put them into your bind. That way you won't have to worry about whether the ES's will allow it or not.
I suggest doing this too, also because field guides can have a lot of unnecessary info on specimens that aren't on the list. Overall, student made notes in binders are probably the best way to go.
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Re: Herpetology B/C

Post by NordoniaMS » February 5th, 2019, 1:08 pm

emmalasagna wrote:
DontWorryAboutIt wrote:
NordoniaMS wrote:Good Morning.
I have a question about using a field guide in the binder. The rules states: Each team may bring one 2019 Official National Herpetology List as well as one two-inch or smaller standard binder containing information in any form and from any source attached using the available
rings.

If the field guide is attached using a magazine holder for a binder is that acceptable? I know that having it in a sleeve was not the last invitational we went to. They made the kids choose between the book and the binder.

Thanks in advance for any clarification on this!
:)
Gina
I don't have the answer to the question of whether a magazine holder for a binder is acceptable. However I would suggest if feasible, scan and copy the pages from the field guide and then just hole punch them and put them into your bind. That way you won't have to worry about whether the ES's will allow it or not.
I suggest doing this too, also because field guides can have a lot of unnecessary info on specimens that aren't on the list. Overall, student made notes in binders are probably the best way to go.
Thank you everyone!
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Re: Herpetology B/C

Post by DontWorryAboutIt » February 6th, 2019, 8:12 am

NordoniaMS wrote:
emmalasagna wrote:
DontWorryAboutIt wrote: I don't have the answer to the question of whether a magazine holder for a binder is acceptable. However I would suggest if feasible, scan and copy the pages from the field guide and then just hole punch them and put them into your bind. That way you won't have to worry about whether the ES's will allow it or not.
I suggest doing this too, also because field guides can have a lot of unnecessary info on specimens that aren't on the list. Overall, student made notes in binders are probably the best way to go.
I agree, the best binder IMO is one with student made info not a field guide because a lot of the stuff in field guides again are pretty useless. Also by using your own sheets, you will be able to locate the information in your binder faster because you yourself made the pages. Using your own pages will increase your efficiency in finding info and will simultaneously help you learn the information yourself as you create the pages.

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Re: Herpetology B/C

Post by dragonfruit35 » February 8th, 2019, 4:30 am

How do you guys differentiate between Gyrinophilus and Pseudotriton? As far as we can tell, Pseudotriton has more prominent black spots and Gyrinophilus appears to (sometimes?) have yellow eyes, but we’re having a bit of trouble differentiating between the two, so if anyone has any tips that would be great :D
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Re: Herpetology B/C

Post by Kyanite » February 8th, 2019, 12:45 pm

dragonfruit35 wrote:How do you guys differentiate between Gyrinophilus and Pseudotriton? As far as we can tell, Pseudotriton has more prominent black spots and Gyrinophilus appears to (sometimes?) have yellow eyes, but we’re having a bit of trouble differentiating between the two, so if anyone has any tips that would be great :D
For me I thought Gyrinophilus's eyes seem to be farther back from the tip of the snout and the head just looks "boxier" while Pseudotrition had a more rounded face.

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