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EastStroudsburg13 wrote:
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EastStroudsburg13 wrote: My concern with that split is in Division B. If you draw those geographic lines, the Montco/Phila region has only 7 teams. It would have Bala Cynwyd and Welsh Valley, but it lacks the same depth of schools as Chester/Delaware. If you put Chester in with Montco/Phila, then you get a region of 13 teams, with 10 in Delaware County, which is theoretically fine. But you also end up with a 10-team Delaware County region in Division C, which would be the smallest C regional by far. And trying to add Bucks back into the mix makes essentially no difference, as only 1 Bucks school competed in Division B this year.

Now, it is possible to split a region geographically in one division and not the other. Western Long Island did that in NY, splitting in C but remaining intact in B. If splitting by division is not a route PASO wants to go in, this may be the next best bet. Keep SEPA intact for B division, but split apart SEPA C division into two (roughly) balanced regions, each with 4 bids. It wouldn't have the same cache in SO circles as a giant region of death, but it would at least not change the competitive balance too significantly.

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Why would splitting by division not be something PASO would want to do? Logistics of tournaments? Anyways, that map is really cool and it really helps anyone who is not familiar with SEPA specifically see why it's a bloodbath. At least it did for me. But those regions all are regionals, right?
It's just not something they've done in the past. Perhaps there are logistical benefits to allowing school districts to only need to plan for one date instead of two. But I think that is my preferred option, in my opinion.

And yes, each region is its own regional in that map.
Delaware/Philadelphia, and Chester/Montgomery/Bucks. That leaves a pretty good spread of competitive teams to tournament size in both divisions, while also avoiding too many small regionals. Yeah we have an 8-team B regional, but that's not too different than CE B (and it's not nearly as top-heavy).

I agree that splitting only in C is probably an easier way to do this though.
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Re: Pennsylvania 2019

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Unome wrote:
EastStroudsburg13 wrote:
TheCrazyChemist wrote: Why would splitting by division not be something PASO would want to do? Logistics of tournaments? Anyways, that map is really cool and it really helps anyone who is not familiar with SEPA specifically see why it's a bloodbath. At least it did for me. But those regions all are regionals, right?
It's just not something they've done in the past. Perhaps there are logistical benefits to allowing school districts to only need to plan for one date instead of two. But I think that is my preferred option, in my opinion.

And yes, each region is its own regional in that map.
Delaware/Philadelphia, and Chester/Montgomery/Bucks. That leaves a pretty good spread of competitive teams to tournament size in both divisions, while also avoiding too many small regionals. Yeah we have an 8-team B regional, but that's not too different than CE B (and it's not nearly as top-heavy).

I agree that splitting only in C is probably an easier way to do this though.
I could also be on board with that split. It would be a little more lopsided in C, since you'd have 6 2019 state-qualifying teams in one regional and 2 in the other, but it's at least functional. A 15-team C regional would be a bit small for PA, but it might work in terms of attracting more Philadelphia city teams.
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Any more details on the whole splitting SEPA issue?
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UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F wrote:Any more details on the whole splitting SEPA issue?
this has nothing to do with it but i had the weirdest dream last night in which like some teams in SE got moved to CE (only team i can still remember is rustin) and we got DEMOLISHED by the SEPA teams and didn’t make states.
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Anomaly wrote:
UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F wrote:Any more details on the whole splitting SEPA issue?
this has nothing to do with it but i had the weirdest dream last night in which like some teams in SE got moved to CE (only team i can still remember is rustin) and we got DEMOLISHED by the SEPA teams and didn’t make states.
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Umaroth wrote:
Anomaly wrote:
UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F wrote:Any more details on the whole splitting SEPA issue?
this has nothing to do with it but i had the weirdest dream last night in which like some teams in SE got moved to CE (only team i can still remember is rustin) and we got DEMOLISHED by the SEPA teams and didn’t make states.
BREAKING NEWS: Bayard Rustin High School uses 2019 2nd place nats Wright Stuff plane to lift entire school and relocate to CE Regional

The school's weight is only a tad more ballast.
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Re: Pennsylvania 2019

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CrayolaCrayon wrote:
Umaroth wrote:
Anomaly wrote: this has nothing to do with it but i had the weirdest dream last night in which like some teams in SE got moved to CE (only team i can still remember is rustin) and we got DEMOLISHED by the SEPA teams and didn’t make states.
BREAKING NEWS: Bayard Rustin High School uses 2019 2nd place nats Wright Stuff plane to lift entire school and relocate to CE Regional

The school's weight is only a tad more ballast.
nothing a 3 hour and 12 min plane couldn't handle
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Pettywap wrote:
CrayolaCrayon wrote:
Umaroth wrote: BREAKING NEWS: Bayard Rustin High School uses 2019 2nd place nats Wright Stuff plane to lift entire school and relocate to CE Regional

The school's weight is only a tad more ballast.
nothing a 3 hour and 12 min plane couldn't handle
I got draft rules for next year and the bonus is 1000x multiplier for flight time while carrying a brick.
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Re: Pennsylvania 2019

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builderguy135 wrote:
Pettywap wrote:
CrayolaCrayon wrote:

The school's weight is only a tad more ballast.
nothing a 3 hour and 12 min plane couldn't handle
I got draft rules for next year and the bonus is 1000x multiplier for flight time while carrying a brick.
it should be for carrying the school :o
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