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Re: NorCal 2019

Post by EastStroudsburg13 » March 16th, 2019, 6:58 pm

onoga17 wrote:Santa Clara Regional Results:

4. Milpitas Blue (153)

3. Monta Vista Purple (121)

2. Palo Alto Green (106)

1. Mountain View Black (98)

Full results here: https://statescioly.org/santa-clara-so/Info/Results/4f8190aa-4d5e-4a61-9f02-e7f148ea41f4
Are those all the teams that qualified for states? Lynbrook might be the best team in the country not to qualify for states if so.
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Re: NorCal 2019

Post by Unome » March 16th, 2019, 7:41 pm

EastStroudsburg13 wrote:
onoga17 wrote:Santa Clara Regional Results:

4. Milpitas Blue (153)

3. Monta Vista Purple (121)

2. Palo Alto Green (106)

1. Mountain View Black (98)

Full results here: https://statescioly.org/santa-clara-so/Info/Results/4f8190aa-4d5e-4a61-9f02-e7f148ea41f4
Are those all the teams that qualified for states? Lynbrook might be the best team in the country not to qualify for states if so.
Often NorCal has 4 per regional, so that might well be the case. Considering the margins and using Mountain View's second team as a baseline, Lynbrook might have been competitive for top 15 at Golden Gate.
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Re: NorCal 2019

Post by onoga17 » March 16th, 2019, 8:09 pm

EastStroudsburg13 wrote:
onoga17 wrote:Santa Clara Regional Results:

4. Milpitas Blue (153)

3. Monta Vista Purple (121)

2. Palo Alto Green (106)

1. Mountain View Black (98)

Full results here: https://statescioly.org/santa-clara-so/Info/Results/4f8190aa-4d5e-4a61-9f02-e7f148ea41f4
Are those all the teams that qualified for states? Lynbrook might be the best team in the country not to qualify for states if so.

Yes, those are the 4 teams that qualified for States. And yes, Lynbrook is a very good up and coming team.

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Re: NorCal 2019

Post by SOPomo » March 21st, 2019, 9:08 pm

Unome wrote:
EastStroudsburg13 wrote:
onoga17 wrote:Santa Clara Regional Results:

4. Milpitas Blue (153)

3. Monta Vista Purple (121)

2. Palo Alto Green (106)

1. Mountain View Black (98)

Full results here: https://statescioly.org/santa-clara-so/Info/Results/4f8190aa-4d5e-4a61-9f02-e7f148ea41f4
Are those all the teams that qualified for states? Lynbrook might be the best team in the country not to qualify for states if so.
Often NorCal has 4 per regional, so that might well be the case. Considering the margins and using Mountain View's second team as a baseline, Lynbrook might have been competitive for top 15 at Golden Gate.
Ya NorCal is 7 regions, 4 teams per division per region for 28 each at State. There are three regions that don't typically have really high placers but, them's the rules. (Last year, Stanislaus-Tulare-Fresno took the bottom 12 spots at States in C, and Turlock from Stanislaus was the high in B at 13th).

I'd be willing to put CA's overall top five up against pretty much any other state in B or C. Shame we'll never send more than two.
In B, that'd probably be five of Kennedy-Churchill-Miller-Kraemer-Jeffrey Trail-Oak Valley.
In C, that'd probably be five of Troy-Mira Loma-Mountain View and then Albany-Palo Alto-whoever is 2nd/3rd behind Troy.
We should propose some sort of super-state-invitational where all the biggest powerhouses can go.

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Re: NorCal 2019

Post by EastStroudsburg13 » March 22nd, 2019, 6:18 am

SOPomo wrote:
Unome wrote:
EastStroudsburg13 wrote: Are those all the teams that qualified for states? Lynbrook might be the best team in the country not to qualify for states if so.
Often NorCal has 4 per regional, so that might well be the case. Considering the margins and using Mountain View's second team as a baseline, Lynbrook might have been competitive for top 15 at Golden Gate.
Ya NorCal is 7 regions, 4 teams per division per region for 28 each at State. There are three regions that don't typically have really high placers but, them's the rules. (Last year, Stanislaus-Tulare-Fresno took the bottom 12 spots at States in C, and Turlock from Stanislaus was the high in B at 13th).

I'd be willing to put CA's overall top five up against pretty much any other state in B or C. Shame we'll never send more than two.
In B, that'd probably be five of Kennedy-Churchill-Miller-Kraemer-Jeffrey Trail-Oak Valley.
In C, that'd probably be five of Troy-Mira Loma-Mountain View and then Albany-Palo Alto-whoever is 2nd/3rd behind Troy.
We should propose some sort of super-state-invitational where all the biggest powerhouses can go.
Seems like an interesting system to have 4 teams per region regardless of region size, but I guess equal representation has its perks. I think you can probably modify a proportional distribution method to force a minimum number of teams per region, but spots will always be limited in a difficult state when there's only 28 to go around. How many teams overall do those three lower-performing regions have?

As for a super-state invitational, it would be an interesting idea but likely a logistical nightmare unless you can get all teams to buy in. Without nationals spots to go around (which is off the table), it would be tough to make it much different from the major invitationals we are already seeing.
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Re: NorCal 2019

Post by SOPomo » March 22nd, 2019, 8:52 am

EastStroudsburg13 wrote: Seems like an interesting system to have 4 teams per region regardless of region size, but I guess equal representation has its perks. I think you can probably modify a proportional distribution method to force a minimum number of teams per region, but spots will always be limited in a difficult state when there's only 28 to go around. How many teams overall do those three lower-performing regions have?
I tried some poking around, on https://statescioly.org/norcal-fresno/Reg/School we see 13 schools / 19 teams in B, 13 schools / 20 teams in C. With 4 schools moving on, that's about a 1 in 3 chance. Tulare http://www.tcoe.org/ScienceOlympiad/Res ... .htm#DivBC only releases the top four in each event and top four teams moving on, but numbers indicate maybe 17 teams in B and 16 in C. Stanislaus https://www.stancoe.org/division/admini ... d-regional is similar but to top 5.

I don't see any info on San Joaquin, which does have some decent teams (Wicklund, Tokay, Mountain House...)

Sacramento had 16 schools / 27 teams in B, and 22 schools / 40 teams in C. https://statescioly.org/sac-so/Reg/School
Bay Area had 22/41 in B, 20/35 in C. https://statescioly.org/norcal-bay-area
Santa Clara had 21/46 in B, 24/51 in C. https://statescioly.org/santa-clara-so/Reg/School

So there is a bit of an imbalance it appears.

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Re: NorCal 2019

Post by jaggie34 » April 4th, 2019, 8:09 pm

How many points did Mira Loma get at regionals?
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Re: NorCal 2019

Post by onoga17 » April 4th, 2019, 8:54 pm

jaggie34 wrote:How many points did Mira Loma get at regionals?
66. Note that this was done with a bomb event in WIDI(17 points).

See: http://www.sacramentoscienceolympiad.com/assets/results/2019DivC.pdf

The scoresheet says 2018 even though it is actually 2019's results.

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Re: NorCal 2019

Post by builderguy135 » April 6th, 2019, 8:49 am

Anyone keeping a live scoresheet?
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