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Re: 2020-2021 Events

Posted: January 22nd, 2020, 9:27 pm
by EastStroudsburg13
I dunno. If committees can't work together because of personal differences, then NSO has much larger issues than just accidental event overlaps. That's where I will leave it.

Re: 2020-2021 Events

Posted: January 23rd, 2020, 4:52 am
by chalker
nicholasmaurer wrote:
January 22nd, 2020, 6:28 pm

Given that each committee is focused on separate topic areas, there is a structural barrier to "accidental overlaps". If the Chemistry Committee focuses on chemistry events, the Physics Committee on physics events, etc. then there should always be an appropriate diversity of events and topics.
This. Note that I didn't say there isn't ANY coordination. Just very little, mainly because of the topic area focus. The Committee Chairs all have great relationships with each other and if need be I could easily have a chat at any time with any of the other chairs. In addition, the National Board does formally approve all the events as a slate in it's entirety, so they do have at least a high-level overview of all the topics.

There most definitely have been situations where we discuss between the chairs whether something is an overlap or whether a particular event is appropriate in a particular committee. A good example of such a discussion I've personally had is whether there are issues with Thermodynamics the event overlapping with Chem Lab with a Thermo topic. To emphasize, as my perspective of the Physics Chair, any overlap between WiFi Lab and Detector Building is so minimal as to not warrant any need to coordinate the timing of those events. I'm sure the Tech Chair has the same opinion.

There are a lot of factors that go into setting the event slate, and we typically do it at least 2 years in advance. The Physics Committee events are pretty much set right now through the 23-24 season, although can always be subject to change as situations change / warrant. While we like to have a defined, expected rotation, we also want to bring in new topics and events at regular intervals, which means unfortunately that some participants won't get to see certain events they were hoping for.

Re: 2020-2021 Events

Posted: January 23rd, 2020, 6:37 am
by vehicleguy
So are they not considered helicopters or elastic launched glider for c? I'm down for another year of wright stuff, but does anyone know what their reasoning would be?

Re: 2020-2021 Events

Posted: January 23rd, 2020, 6:56 am
by CrayolaCrayon
vehicleguy wrote:
January 23rd, 2020, 6:37 am
So are they not considered helicopters or elastic launched glider for c? I'm down for another year of wright stuff, but does anyone know what their reasoning would be?
Wright Stuff is simply better :D

Re: 2020-2021 Events

Posted: January 23rd, 2020, 6:58 am
by nicholasmaurer
EastStroudsburg13 wrote:
January 22nd, 2020, 9:27 pm
I dunno. If committees can't work together because of personal differences, then NSO has much larger issues than just accidental event overlaps. That's where I will leave it.
I don't have the impression that the committees are incapable of working together due to "personal differences" and I don't think that was Unome's point. He said coordination beyond what already occurs would be complicated. I don't think that complication is due to personal animosity.

Re: 2020-2021 Events

Posted: January 23rd, 2020, 7:03 am
by LiteralRhinoceros
there does seem to be at least some evidence of communication
dyplan skipped the freshwater topic, probably because waqua was coming back into rotation

Re: 2020-2021 Events

Posted: January 23rd, 2020, 5:39 pm
by Unome
nicholasmaurer wrote:
January 23rd, 2020, 6:58 am
EastStroudsburg13 wrote:
January 22nd, 2020, 9:27 pm
I dunno. If committees can't work together because of personal differences, then NSO has much larger issues than just accidental event overlaps. That's where I will leave it.
I don't have the impression that the committees are incapable of working together due to "personal differences" and I don't think that was Unome's point. He said coordination beyond what already occurs would be complicated. I don't think that complication is due to personal animosity.
Yeah, as far as I'm aware there's no personal animosity - I was referring to the differing designs of event rotations and topic divisions.

Re: 2020-2021 Events

Posted: January 23rd, 2020, 7:20 pm
by EastStroudsburg13
Unome wrote:
January 23rd, 2020, 5:39 pm
nicholasmaurer wrote:
January 23rd, 2020, 6:58 am
EastStroudsburg13 wrote:
January 22nd, 2020, 9:27 pm
I dunno. If committees can't work together because of personal differences, then NSO has much larger issues than just accidental event overlaps. That's where I will leave it.
I don't have the impression that the committees are incapable of working together due to "personal differences" and I don't think that was Unome's point. He said coordination beyond what already occurs would be complicated. I don't think that complication is due to personal animosity.
Yeah, as far as I'm aware there's no personal animosity - I was referring to the differing designs of event rotations and topic divisions.
If that is something that makes working together difficult, I will choose to define it as a personal difference.

Re: 2020-2021 Events

Posted: January 23rd, 2020, 7:49 pm
by builderguy135
vehicleguy wrote:
January 23rd, 2020, 6:37 am
So are they not considered helicopters or elastic launched glider for c? I'm down for another year of wright stuff, but does anyone know what their reasoning would be?
I'm betting that the SOSI schedule just has a typo and that E-Wright Stuff will unfortunately come to div c :(

Wish elg would come back though :\

Re: 2020-2021 Events

Posted: January 24th, 2020, 4:15 am
by CrayolaCrayon
builderguy135 wrote:
January 23rd, 2020, 7:49 pm
vehicleguy wrote:
January 23rd, 2020, 6:37 am
So are they not considered helicopters or elastic launched glider for c? I'm down for another year of wright stuff, but does anyone know what their reasoning would be?
I'm betting that the SOSI schedule just has a typo and that E-Wright Stuff will unfortunately come to div c :(
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

How about ELG div B and normal WS div C :o