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Re: Covid-19 and Nats/States

Post by Godspeed » March 9th, 2020, 8:54 pm

JoeyC wrote:
March 9th, 2020, 7:37 pm
At this point it's almost guaranteed Covid-19 will spread
https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/co ... 020-02-25/
So now its just a matter of reaction to Covid-19, to which I see two options:

Quarantines and Lockdowns
These only slow the inevitable and cause economic damage, so they seem to be an inherently bad option.
However, they do give people comfort and allow for time for a possible vaccine to be developed - though the distribution time for such a vaccine would consist of a notable amount of time between creation and availability to the masses. (I still disagree with them though, because of the further amount of disruptions they cause)

On the other hand, you bite the bullet and continue life as normal, but take additional measures to ensure those most vulnerable are protected and that those infected can get access to intensive care if needed. This one packs less economic damage and disruption, but can lead to hospitals and medical services getting overwhelmed due to a larger influx of infected patients than they would under lockdown, and further threatens more deaths.

I'd prefer biting the bullet so life can continue, but I can easily understand the advantages to quarantines and lockdowns. I'm just not a fan of their disruptive properties (like cancelling states), but given that the other approach would mean a lot of sick teammates....

If we put emphasis on the lockdown approach, I'm almost sure nationals will be cancelled if Coronavirus doesn't peak at least 2 weeks before the time at which SciOly must make that call
I think what New Jersey did was good. They decided to not hold the award ceremony.

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Re: Covid-19 and Nats/States

Post by waterboy » March 10th, 2020, 4:49 am

Godspeed wrote:
March 9th, 2020, 8:54 pm
I think what New Jersey did was good. They decided to not hold the award ceremony.
I agree I think that that is a good option so that people don't really come in contact with a lot of people but still are able to compete.
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Re: Covid-19 and Nats/States

Post by snowyowl » March 10th, 2020, 5:35 am

Godspeed wrote:
March 9th, 2020, 8:54 pm
JoeyC wrote:
March 9th, 2020, 7:37 pm
At this point it's almost guaranteed Covid-19 will spread
https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/co ... 020-02-25/
So now its just a matter of reaction to Covid-19, to which I see two options:

Quarantines and Lockdowns
These only slow the inevitable and cause economic damage, so they seem to be an inherently bad option.
However, they do give people comfort and allow for time for a possible vaccine to be developed - though the distribution time for such a vaccine would consist of a notable amount of time between creation and availability to the masses. (I still disagree with them though, because of the further amount of disruptions they cause)

On the other hand, you bite the bullet and continue life as normal, but take additional measures to ensure those most vulnerable are protected and that those infected can get access to intensive care if needed. This one packs less economic damage and disruption, but can lead to hospitals and medical services getting overwhelmed due to a larger influx of infected patients than they would under lockdown, and further threatens more deaths.

I'd prefer biting the bullet so life can continue, but I can easily understand the advantages to quarantines and lockdowns. I'm just not a fan of their disruptive properties (like cancelling states), but given that the other approach would mean a lot of sick teammates....

If we put emphasis on the lockdown approach, I'm almost sure nationals will be cancelled if Coronavirus doesn't peak at least 2 weeks before the time at which SciOly must make that call
I think what New Jersey did was good. They decided to not hold the award ceremony.
There is substantial evidence that shows that quarantines and lockdowns, if used over a period of time, are extremely effective in preventing the spread of COVID-19, although they may be disruptive to everyone's daily lives.
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Post by LittleMissNyan » March 10th, 2020, 6:04 am

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Post by JoeyC » March 10th, 2020, 6:06 am

snowyowl wrote:
March 10th, 2020, 5:35 am
There is substantial evidence that shows that quarantines and lockdowns, if used over a period of time, are extremely effective in preventing the spread of COVID-19, although they may be disruptive to everyone's daily lives.
Maybe it worked in China, but can it in America?
As a communist country China can take certain privileges that America can't. Also America's current approach doesn't look to be as effective as China's.
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Post by nicholasmaurer » March 10th, 2020, 11:52 am

The Ohio State Tournament and all remaining Ohio regional tournaments were just cancelled per an email from our state director, Angela Davis.
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Post by itsDerk » March 10th, 2020, 12:03 pm

nicholasmaurer wrote:
March 10th, 2020, 11:52 am
The Ohio State Tournament and all remaining Ohio regional tournaments were just cancelled per an email from our state director, Angela Davis.
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Re: Covid-19 and Nats/States

Post by snowyowl » March 10th, 2020, 12:07 pm

nicholasmaurer wrote:
March 10th, 2020, 11:52 am
The Ohio State Tournament and all remaining Ohio regional tournaments were just cancelled per an email from our state director, Angela Davis.
Sad to hear. Looks increasing unlikely that a national tournament will be held unless MAJOR (aka nearly impossible) rescheduling can be done.
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Re: Covid-19 and Nats/States

Post by SilverBreeze » March 10th, 2020, 1:07 pm

No Solon and no Troy at Nats...
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Re: Covid-19 and Nats/States

Post by nicholasmaurer » March 10th, 2020, 1:14 pm

SilverBreeze wrote:
March 10th, 2020, 1:07 pm
No Solon and no Troy at Nats...
Personally, although I do not have official knowledge of current discussions, I think it unlikely that the national tournament will move forward as planned. I am hoping that we receive some sort of official guidance from the national organization soon about their current intent. However, just based upon basic epidemiology, it seems to be only a matter of time before there are cases in the Raleigh/Durham area that necessitate similar steps at NCSU as have been taken here in Ohio at OSU. They may hold off on a decision until that occurs, but I think it is a question of when, not if.
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