Junkyard Challenge B

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Re: Junkyard Challenge B

Postby SpaceJunkie » October 12th, 2009, 2:54 pm

Something to add to the mousetrap tripping points: you get

25 points if the north mousetrap is tripped first

50 points if the south mousetrap is tripped second

75 points if the west mousetrap is tripped third

100 points if the east mousetrap is tripped fourth.

Of course, there's still 35 points for each mousetrap tripped, and 100 points for tripping all the mousetraps (task completion). Please let me know if I am wrong.
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Re: Junkyard Challenge B

Postby gyourkoshaven » October 12th, 2009, 4:54 pm

I see your point, however, you did over exaggerate to an extent.

Scoring works like this:
55 points for the device being legal, labeled, fits in 40*40*60 cube etc.
100 points for finishing building in 30 minutes
17 points for correctly aligning the mousetraps
58 points for starting the task
60 points for setting off all 4 mousetraps in 1 minute.

Then bonuses:
2 points for each second that the device operates under 1 minute
42 points if it operates for 5 seconds before setting off 1st trap
35 points for each mousetrap tripped by the device (This is vague, let me know what they say if you send in a rule clarification on this)
Then you can get up to 250 points for tripping the traps in the order of N, S, W, E (N is worth 25, S is worth 50, W is worth 75, E is worth 100)

I personally don't see anything on a penalty for the mousetrap bouncing around, but let me know if I am.

18 point penalty each time the device is touched
8 points per cm that the mousetrap is off from defined distance (If this is what you mean by that, I take this as aligned before the device starts operating, and it doesn't matter where it goes after it snaps.

The impound is going to be annoying though, since the box is so small, nothing will fit if it's put together beforehand.

Also, (Eyeball can yell at me for looking too far ahead here) but how would I go about finding a formula for how long my tubes should be/how heavy my marbles should be, etc. for the National level, where the lengths can differ from mousetrap to mousetrap? Thanks.
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Re: Junkyard Challenge B

Postby doctor » October 12th, 2009, 6:00 pm

As for your first question - no, that would be fine.

"Direct touch" means, you doing anything other than releasing the golf ball, ie: setting off the mousetrap with a pencil, pushing some other element that didn't go off correctly...

Basically: all you're allowed to do is release a golf ball. Anything the device does on its own after that is fine, anything you have to activate or do or touch will incur a penalty.
in the penalties part of the rules say that touching a marble to roll down a ramp is a direct touch
or is touching it to roll down a ramp different from dropping it on a ramp?
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Re: Junkyard Challenge B

Postby brobo » October 12th, 2009, 6:03 pm

I think the only thing you can touch is the golf ball when you release it.
After that, NO TOUCHING!
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Re: Junkyard Challenge B

Postby fmtiger124 » October 12th, 2009, 6:10 pm

I think the only thing you can touch is the golf ball when you release it.
After that, NO TOUCHING!
Well, you can touch it but if you do you recieve a penalty
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Re: Junkyard Challenge B

Postby gyourkoshaven » October 12th, 2009, 6:10 pm

The latter is not a direct touch. You can touch the device, but there is an 18 point penalty each time you do.

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Re: Junkyard Challenge B

Postby doctor » October 12th, 2009, 8:01 pm

in the rules it says that pushing a golf ball down a ramp is considered touching
however opening a door to allow a ball to roll down a ramp is not touching
is that true?
i'm trying to clarify the rules a little bit
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Re: Junkyard Challenge B

Postby gyourkoshaven » October 13th, 2009, 3:47 am

You drop a golf ball on a central point, there is no penalty for that, in fact I think you get 58 points for correctly doing this. To solve everyone's problems, I'm not going to touch mine at all (Unless the device malfunctions). Maybe use a pully system for opening doors, and definitely use gravity to help you.
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Re: Junkyard Challenge B

Postby brobo » October 13th, 2009, 4:48 am

Every time you touch anything other than the golf ball to release it, you get a 18 point penalty.
It doesn't matter WHAT you touch, touch anything and you get a 18 point penalty.
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Re: Junkyard Challenge B

Postby doctor » October 13th, 2009, 7:41 am

so the golf ball isnt part of the device?
and dropping it down a ramp or something is not a direct touch?
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