robodude wrote:Trial events only appear in a single state.
Section 3.b wrote:The device must trip all 4 unmodified mousetraps within 1 minute to receive maximum points.
Section 3.i wrote:Timing will stop when the intended fourth mousetrap is tripped or when 60 seconds is reached. Actions occurring after 60 seconds will not be scored.
End of Section 4 wrote:Ties will be broken as follows: 1. Fewest penalty points; 2. Longest time of operation up to 60 seconds.
Section 4.g wrote:2 points for each whole second the device operates up to task completion
nejanimb wrote:Think of it this way - at 60.9 seconds, how many whole seconds have elapsed? 60. At 61.0 seconds, 61 seconds will have elapsed. Thus, this would be out of the range. At 59.9 seconds, how many seconds have elapsed? Only 59 whole seconds have. This is the reason. I would have thought, just from the rules, that 60.01 should be a better score than 60.99, but the rule clarification makes it clear that that is not the case.
I think it's very smart that Ohio made it a trial event. That's quite a statement for them to make, but in such a competitive state with so many strong schools, my thinking is that they decided they didn't want the nationals qualifier to be decided by judge subjectivity in JYC, since there will be so many schools that are so close that it could swing it as many as 10 points, which is enough to change overall standings significantly.
acanoli wrote:Can anyone explain to me why a device can run for 6.9 seconds and still complete the task?Section 3.b wrote:The device must trip all 4 unmodified mousetraps within 1 minute to receive maximum points.Section 3.i wrote:Timing will stop when the intended fourth mousetrap is tripped or when 60 seconds is reached. Actions occurring after 60 seconds will not be scored.End of Section 4 wrote:Ties will be broken as follows: 1. Fewest penalty points; 2. Longest time of operation up to 60 seconds.
60 seconds is equal to 60 seconds. Even if it did say "whole seconds," 60 whole seconds is STILL equal to 60 seconds. That's simpler than math. The only place where the rules mention "whole seconds" is here:Section 4.g wrote:2 points for each whole second the device operates up to task completion
But obviously, if it operates for longer than 60 seconds, there is no task completion, according to section 3.i. 1 minute is 60 seconds, not 60.9. I have no idea why the FAQ said what it did on February 2. Can anyone explain how a device can run for 60.9 seconds get the maximum score?
Don't take information posted on the internet (even the event pages at soinc.org) as an extension of the rules. This information is developed by coaches, event supervisors and other people involved in Science Olympiad from all around the country. Sometimes it is from previous years when the rules were different. There is no guarantee it complies with the current rules 100%.Also, look at the excel score sheet on soinc.
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Junkyard Challenge: Section 3.i. and 4.g. and 4. Ties, Seconds are recorded in "whole seconds" so, 59.5 would be recorded as 59. And, any time between 60.00-60.99 would be recorded as 60, after which actions are no longer scored (See the posted Junkyard FAQs). The 2nd Tiebreaker should read: Closest time of operation to 60 seconds" (4/12/10)
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