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Protein Modeling C [NY Trial]

Posted: August 17th, 2009, 1:56 pm
by Jim_R
Discussion for Protein Modeling C, a trial event in New York.

Rules:
2010 Rules

Re: Protein Modeling C [NY Trial]

Posted: September 13th, 2009, 6:33 am
by Flavorflav
The rules linked to above are notthe correct rules for this event. Those are the draft rules from June. The final rules are here. The biggest difference are that the molecules have changed and only two students may compete.

Re: Protein Modeling C [NY Trial]

Posted: October 4th, 2009, 8:32 am
by Phenylethylamine
Is this being run at any Regional competitions, or just at States? Because I'm pretty sure my region isn't running it- not really surprising, since it's pretty heavy on the setup.

Re: Protein Modeling C [NY Trial]

Posted: October 5th, 2009, 7:06 pm
by Flavorflav
Phenylethylamine wrote:Is this being run at any Regional competitions, or just at States? Because I'm pretty sure my region isn't running it- not really surprising, since it's pretty heavy on the setup.
All regions are supposed to run the trial events. If they don't, they get fewer medals from the State. I am quite sure that E.L.I. will run it.

Re: Protein Modeling C [NY Trial]

Posted: October 6th, 2009, 2:39 pm
by Phenylethylamine
Flavorflav wrote:
Phenylethylamine wrote:Is this being run at any Regional competitions, or just at States? Because I'm pretty sure my region isn't running it- not really surprising, since it's pretty heavy on the setup.
All regions are supposed to run the trial events. If they don't, they get fewer medals from the State. I am quite sure that E.L.I. will run it.
Yeah, I was told that the region always runs the trials, although nobody was sure why. That's good to know.

Re: Protein Modeling C [NY Trial]

Posted: October 19th, 2009, 2:20 pm
by AlchemyRocks
I believe the rules for the New York Protein Modeling and Wisconsin Protein modeling are the same. Can someone confirm this for me?
Unfortunately, I am working from a school computer at the moment, and any time I click on a .pdf file, the browser quits out. No clue why this is...but I've come to except it with school computers.

If this is confirmed, I would like to know the way to obtain the Mini-Toobers materials for the building. Do we order them off the site?

Re: Protein Modeling C [NY Trial]

Posted: October 20th, 2009, 9:40 am
by Flavorflav
AlchemyRocks wrote:I believe the rules for the New York Protein Modeling and Wisconsin Protein modeling are the same. Can someone confirm this for me?
Unfortunately, I am working from a school computer at the moment, and any time I click on a .pdf file, the browser quits out. No clue why this is...but I've come to except it with school computers.

If this is confirmed, I would like to know the way to obtain the Mini-Toobers materials for the building. Do we order them off the site?
I would be very surprised if they were different, because I believe trial event rules are supposed to be the same throughout the country. Clarifications made at the State level would only apply to that State, though.

You can get miniToobers at the bottom of this page: http://www.3dmoleculardesigns.com/news2.php#betafolding

Re: Protein Modeling C [NY Trial]

Posted: November 10th, 2009, 6:35 pm
by AlchemyRocks
Thank you. : )
I got my MiniToober stuff sent to me.
Now...I'm trying to figure out how to use Jmol. : D
I love messing with new programs!

Re: Protein Modeling C [NY Trial]

Posted: November 11th, 2009, 11:11 am
by Phenylethylamine
AlchemyRocks wrote:Thank you. : )
I got my MiniToober stuff sent to me.
Now...I'm trying to figure out how to use Jmol. : D
I love messing with new programs!
If you're having any trouble with Jmol, there is a whole wiki on it (http://wiki.jmol.com). It's sometimes unclear, and not really designed for beginners, unfortunately, but there is a page of tutorials (http://wiki.jmol.org/index.php?title=Jmol_Tutorials) which may or may not be helpful.
I don't know if you're more comfortable with a command line setup or with using the menus, but personally I prefer the command line (although I believe full functionality is available without touching the command line). If you're looking for it, the command line can be accessed by going to File -> Output Console (it took me a while to figure out that 'Output Console' was the command line :? ). I don't know much about using the menus (because I almost never do- except to open files, since that doesn't seem to work very well in the command line for some reason), but I'm pretty familiar with the commands if you have any questions.

Re: Protein Modeling C [NY Trial]

Posted: November 12th, 2009, 3:26 pm
by AlchemyRocks
I'll see which works better for me. To be honest, I have nearly no background in command prompt or whatever it is.
But it can't hurt to learn new trick. Thanks for the site. I'll definately check it out!