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Re: Flight Times

Postby smartkid222 » April 14th, 2010, 2:40 pm

leetx wrote:Recently, there was an indoor contest in Tustin, CA, in a former blimp hanger. The winning time was 5:11 !! 4:09 got last place! The 5:11 flyer will be at the US indoor Championship to take on all challengers.


I was actually about to post about that. The bar for nationals is set at 5:11, for now. The height of Tustin was about 150-160 feet. I hear the winner has done sci oly in the past and has become quite an expert, judging by the times.


*edit* i belive they use the 2010 specs. but check to make sure.
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Re: Flight Times

Postby leetx » April 14th, 2010, 2:47 pm

The SO plane doesn't climb to the ceiling at Tustin, only about 80 feet. So the same kind of times can be attained at the Nationals.

So, yes, the bar is set at 5:11. I didn't think it was possible until I witnessed it myself.

Yes, for sure, 2010 rules were used. No bonus wings.

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Re: Flight Times

Postby mg » April 14th, 2010, 3:16 pm

Does anyone know the illinois state top times?
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Re: Flight Times

Postby talicoa » April 14th, 2010, 5:10 pm

The best time was 4:00 on the state bonus wing. Calculated out it was 4:48. It was very impressive to watch. AA winner was around 4:30 also impressive. Our best time was 4:05, in practice :-) 3:25 when it counted. It was enough for 4th place AA.

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Re: Flight Times

Postby leetx » April 14th, 2010, 7:32 pm

Here is a link to the schedule of the US Indoor Championship. You will see that the Wright Stuff event takes place May 28, 2010.

http://www.modelaircraft.org/files/2010 ... hedule.pdf

The Contest Director is Carl Bakay, carl.bakay@yahoo.com. Contact him for entry information.

Students can fly for a steep discount.

Note that if you can also compete in other events. For example, the limited penny plane (LPP) is a reasonable next step from Wright STuff. These models have a minimum weight of 3.1g and can fly more than 15 minutes at the site.

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Re: Flight Times

Postby illusionist » April 15th, 2010, 12:39 pm

the bonus for state and national tournament is given if your wing chord is under 7cm right?
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Re: Flight Times

Postby lunxiong » April 15th, 2010, 1:26 pm

The bonus for state is given if the wing cord is less than 7 cm; the bonus for national is given if the wing cord is less than 6cm.

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Re: Flight Times

Postby Littleboy » April 17th, 2010, 3:49 pm

talicoa wrote:The best time was 4:00 on the state bonus wing. Calculated out it was 4:48. It was very impressive to watch. AA winner was around 4:30 also impressive. Our best time was 4:05, in practice :-) 3:25 when it counted. It was enough for 4th place AA.


How tall was the gym?

I had my best flight ever today. 2:56

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Re: Flight Times

Postby jcollier » April 21st, 2010, 7:52 pm

This post is not really about the seasoned flyers who are putting up great times, but about what a novice can accomplish. My #2 WS competitor built his first ever plane this year just before regionals, and got the plane to fly around 55 sec. back in March. He finally is getting some nice flights. Today he almost hit 2.00 and the plane is flying very nicely and consistently. He used the Cezar Banks Leading Edge, as did my son. He made some errors in construction, but not too bad for his first attempt. This plane has been broken and repaired many times, and is somewhat over 7 grams, but he hung in there, we got a prop/rubber combo that worked well, and his hard work and persistence has been rewarded. If anyone on this board is still struggling, I urge you to stick with it, and exhaust all tuning possibilities. It is so worth it when you finally can see the plane fly well. :D

To update this post, Phil was flying a lot of practice at States when he had time. He kept flying after the competition, and was fortunate enough to get some feedback from John Clapp. He ended up getting a best practice time of 2.58! He had several flights in the 2.40 range. The persistence he showed and what he was able to do and learn were very impressive to me. Way to go, Phil! :mrgreen:
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Re: Flight Times

Postby wlsguy » April 22nd, 2010, 4:56 am

jcollier wrote:This post is not really about the seasoned flyers who are putting up great times, but about what a novice can accomplish. My #2 WS competitor built his first ever plane this year just before regionals, and got the plane to fly around 55 sec. back in March. He finally is getting some nice flights. Today he almost hit 2.00 and the plane is flying very nicely and consistently. He used the Cezar Banks Leading Edge, as did my son. He made some errors in construction, but not too bad for his first attempt. This plane has been broken and repaired many times, and is somewhat over 7 grams, but he hung in there, we got a prop/rubber combo that worked well, and his hard work and persistence has been rewarded. If anyone on this board is still struggling, I urge you to stick with it, and exhaust all tuning possibilities. It is so worth it when you finally can see the plane fly well. :D


Good Point !!

Our team has a variety of places built throughout the season. Some have been repaired, some are heaverier than others.
At the beginning of the season we thought 1:30 was a good time in a normal 24' gym.
At the end of the season every team member consistantly hit 2:20 with almost any plane and our better planes would hit 3:00.

Basically, if you build a plane with a kit or according to one of the popular plans, you can have a good time.
We found that building the plane was the easy part.

To have a good time;
Keep up the practice and make small changes, one at a time, and document EVERYTHING that you do.
I would also recommend reading every article you can find on stretch winding and using a torque meter.

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Postby mcgoarty072 » April 22nd, 2010, 5:58 pm

I have been flying my plane at a consistent 2.10-2.15 with my best at 2.34 but i am going to do more to add time. How do you think i will do at PA states with these times?
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Re: flight times

Postby wlsguy » April 23rd, 2010, 3:58 am

mcgoarty072 wrote:I have been flying my plane at a consistent 2.10-2.15 with my best at 2.34 but i am going to do more to add time. How do you think i will do at PA states with these times?


First the good news.
If your time is based on a "normal" gym height, 2.34 is a pretty good time. You are already flying better than most teams and being able to fly consistantly over 2.00 is a good thing.

The bad news.
One the the PA teams, Bala Cynwyd, flew a 3.13 at one of the invitationals this year. If I remember correctly, the ceiling height was ~23'.

Don't give up and keep trying. You can make significant improvements with proper stretch winding and with minor adjustments to the plane. It is far more important to fly your best time consistantly than it is to occassionally hit a good time.

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Re: Flight Times

Postby jcollier » April 23rd, 2010, 1:02 pm

Your times would have gotten 3rd place last year. This year, it's anyone's guess. I expect it to be much more competitive since teams have had an extra year with few changes needed to designs, other than the larger stabilizer. I will be helping the Supervisor, John Clapp, in some capacity next Friday, but I don't know what yet. I have been a timer and weighed motors in the past. Good luck to you. :)

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Re: Flight Times

Postby Littleboy » April 23rd, 2010, 3:56 pm

What were the top 10 flight times at the MI state competition last year?

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Re: Flight Times

Postby Taran » April 25th, 2010, 6:00 pm

Let me guess, 5:11 was using a made from scratch plane?

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