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Nationals results

Postby eta150 » May 22nd, 2010, 8:23 pm

Well, once again, JC Booth won this highly contested event. If anyone knows times, and whether people were flying on the nationals bonus wing or not, please post here!
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Re: Nationals results

Postby sh_scienceolympiadenator » May 22nd, 2010, 9:01 pm

From what I heard from our middle school, 3rd place flew 4:40 with the bonus.

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Re: Nationals results

Postby haven chuck » May 24th, 2010, 5:05 am

Well, once again, JC Booth won this highly contested event. If anyone knows times, and whether people were flying on the nationals bonus wing or not, please post here!
I think I heard that Booth got around 8 minutes without using the bonus.
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Re: Nationals results

Postby eta150 » May 24th, 2010, 5:31 am

8 MINUTES???!!!!
please tell me that's a typo :o
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Re: Nationals results

Postby talicoa » May 24th, 2010, 6:48 am

Booth did great, but not 8 minutes. I didn't time them other than looking at a clock on the wall, but I believe they were around 4:30 prior to factoring in the bonus.

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Re: Nationals results (and recap)

Postby GitItWright » May 24th, 2010, 7:19 am

Results at Nationals- Top 10

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1 Booth- 5:18.28 (318.28 plus wing bonus)
2 Marie Murphy School-5:04
3 Strath Haven- 4:40.53
4 Arendell Parrott Acad.- 4:23.25
5 Bearden MS-4:16.44
6 Kenwood Trail MS- 4:11.63
7 ExCel Homeschoolers- 4:04.59
8 Paul Galinas JHS- 3:59.36
9 Eagle Hill MS- 3:55.11
10 Thomas Jefferson MS- 3:54.16

The air was near perfect although one team filed an arbitration because the "air conditioning was on". Turns out that the motor noise being heard came from a compressor for a computer room system and was not an air conditioner.

Booth's Flight was amazing that featured their 6 cm wing chord. Winning the event meant that their two competitors also were awarded the AMA's Scholarship Award of $2,500.00 each. The Marie Murphy"s team's over 5 minute flight was also outstanding as their flight was the only flight to physically punch through the 5 minute ceiling.

Otherwise, the Ill University bent over backwards to allow teams ample opportunity to trim fly. The Friday afternoon flying was a hit and lasted from 1-5 pm. In Saturday's competition we allowed trim flying at one end worked fine as well. Airplane designs were more mixed than before and most were very nice fliers. Helicopter exceeded expectations. There were more teams than expected in the Helicopter competition and a few had flights around two minutes. I will allow Jeff Anderson to fill in more on that event.

There were only a couple of Wright Stuff flights that were under a minute with average flight times well over 2 minutes. The flight performance in Wright Stuff has progressed steadily over the past 14 years and all students and coaches associated with the Wright Stuff event should be proud of that achievement.

Look for Wright Stuff to come back as C Div event in 2013. Thanks to all who were enthusiasts of the event and you may continue indoor flying by joining the AMA and flying in their indoor contests. Good Luck in the future.

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Re: Nationals results

Postby eta150 » May 24th, 2010, 8:01 am

Flying 4 min. in practice, plane blew up first flight...
Just bad luck I guess, seeing as I've put in days and days without this happening before. At least I got two medals!!!
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Re: Nationals results

Postby haven chuck » May 24th, 2010, 12:08 pm

Booth did great, but not 8 minutes. I didn't time them other than looking at a clock on the wall, but I believe they were around 4:30 prior to factoring in the bonus.
I must've heard wrong; sorry for the misinformation. Anyway, from the few helicopters I saw, it looked like they went up well, but then stalled and fell fairly quickly. Is that what they're supposed to do?
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Re: Nationals results

Postby smartkid222 » May 24th, 2010, 12:41 pm

i'm confused because i dont know how much the bonus is. What was booth's time without the bonus?
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Re: Nationals results

Postby eta150 » May 24th, 2010, 2:46 pm

The bonus was 40%. I know that at least Strath Haven and Booth used it.
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Re: Nationals results

Postby talicoa » May 24th, 2010, 4:03 pm

Booth had 3:47 seconds if my brain and calculator work correctly. I watched them a number of times in practice and I could swear they got over 4 minutes a few times. They did have a tough first run almost flying it into the ground. Very nice recovery from this for their second run. It made it all the more impressive to me that they were able to adjust and get the desired result.

As far as the team filing for arbitration due to the air conditioners, I was indirectly related to that. As stated, the flying conditions were very good.
Two things led to the filing though.
1. Prior to the competition several practice flights went off without a hitch. The official flights both exhibited extreme issues that were unseen before in Saturday's practice. People watching could not explain this. They also could not talk to the flyers to determine what went wrong.
2. In the stands there was a very cold draft coming down on at least part of the crowd. I am the coach of the team and I was further down in the stands, and I didn't feel anything until I walked back to where the rest of the team was sitting. There really was a cold downdraft there and noise from something. The protest had already been initiated when I got there.

What occurred that caused the odd behavior of the planes was the fact that the motors for two different planes were given to the officials for weighing. When they were handed back to the team, they had not been kept separate, and the wrong motors were handed to the kids. Both flights torqued into the ground, one because it was using a motor that was too thick for it, and the other because we think it had been damaged in a midair collision that happened immediately before our team was supposed to fly their official flights. The other plane's prop was broken off in the collision, as it climbed up into our plane. Ours seemed OK to the kids, but most likely had a problem. I haven't had a chance to look at it yet. We had the first flight time of the morning, so the kids just transitioned into competition mode.

The kids had the fortitude to plead their case with the officiants and they were allowed to fly again. With the correct motor, the undamaged plane flew pretty well(13th place) I am very proud of them for being able to make their case and still fly well under all of that pressure. They are not accustomed to being on a big stage like that at the center of attention.

In the end they were told they could fly again due to the air conditioning. They flew a couple practice flights, but their times with the good plane were near the same and they didn't feel that a draft had affected their flights so they decided not to fly again.

This was really a great experience for the kids, and I think the officials and volunteers did a great job.

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Re: Nationals results

Postby Littleboy » May 24th, 2010, 4:15 pm

did anyone climb to the ceiling? if so who? where from? bonus used? ect
if not how high was the highest flight?

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Re: Nationals results

Postby talicoa » May 24th, 2010, 6:02 pm

I don't think any planes made it near the top. Maybe some hit the side. Here are a few photos from Nationals to give some perspective.
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The toss.
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The Armory.
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One of our planes.
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Re: Nationals results

Postby haven chuck » May 24th, 2010, 6:30 pm

I don't think any planes made it near the top. Maybe some hit the side. Here are a few photos from Nationals to give some perspective.
I saw a helicopter that got within at least 5 feet of the top.
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Re: Nationals results

Postby eyeball138 » May 24th, 2010, 7:03 pm

I saw one or two planes come within about 10 feet from the top, but no closer than that. And Eta, really sucks about the plane. Congratulations on your other medals, and it was great meeting you!
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