Junkyard Challenge B

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Re: Junkyard Challenge B

Postby Littleboy » May 10th, 2011, 6:17 pm

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it is actually an interesting trigger.

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Re: Junkyard Challenge B

Postby Cheese_Muffin_Man » May 10th, 2011, 6:29 pm

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it is actually an interesting trigger.
What is?

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Re: Junkyard Challenge B

Postby Littleboy » May 10th, 2011, 6:32 pm

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it is actually an interesting trigger.
What is?
my trigger
it is really hard to describe tho

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Re: Junkyard Challenge B

Postby chalker » May 10th, 2011, 7:09 pm


Could you explain to me what a tier is in junkyard. I'm so confused. :oops:
Tiers are something we use in many events in Science Olympiad to group teams, typically based upon their compliance with the rules. In many cases we don't want a team to be completely dq'd from an event for a minor violation or oversight, yet we want there to be a concrete penalty. To use Junkyard as a specific example, there are 2 tiers:

Tier 1 is the group of teams that do NOT violate any of the rules in any way.
Tier 2 is the group of teams that DO violate the rules in some way (e.g. box is slightly too big, brought some extra balls, didn't impound on time, etc etc). They will be ranked behind all Tier 1 teams regardless of score.

Once we group all the teams into tiers, we then rank them within that tier according to the scoring formula in the rules. Let's say hypothetically you have 4 teams: A, B, C, D.

Teams A and C didn't violate any rules, so they are in Tier 1. Teams B and D violated some of the rules so they are in Tier 2.
The scores the teams got were as follows: A: 10, B: 15, C:5, D:1.
If we didn't tier the teams, the results would be 1st B, 2nd A, 3rd C, 4th D.
But we do tier them, so the actual results are: 1st A, 2nd C, 3rd B, 4th D. Note A and C moved ahead of B because B violated some rules and was in tier 2.

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Re: Junkyard Challenge B

Postby Cheese_Muffin_Man » May 11th, 2011, 3:47 am


Could you explain to me what a tier is in junkyard. I'm so confused. :oops:
Tiers are something we use in many events in Science Olympiad to group teams, typically based upon their compliance with the rules. In many cases we don't want a team to be completely dq'd from an event for a minor violation or oversight, yet we want there to be a concrete penalty. To use Junkyard as a specific example, there are 2 tiers:

Tier 1 is the group of teams that do NOT violate any of the rules in any way.
Tier 2 is the group of teams that DO violate the rules in some way (e.g. box is slightly too big, brought some extra balls, didn't impound on time, etc etc). They will be ranked behind all Tier 1 teams regardless of score.

Once we group all the teams into tiers, we then rank them within that tier according to the scoring formula in the rules. Let's say hypothetically you have 4 teams: A, B, C, D.

Teams A and C didn't violate any rules, so they are in Tier 1. Teams B and D violated some of the rules so they are in Tier 2.
The scores the teams got were as follows: A: 10, B: 15, C:5, D:1.
If we didn't tier the teams, the results would be 1st B, 2nd A, 3rd C, 4th D.
But we do tier them, so the actual results are: 1st A, 2nd C, 3rd B, 4th D. Note A and C moved ahead of B because B violated some rules and was in tier 2.
Thanks a lot! :D

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Re: Junkyard Challenge B

Postby Cheese_Muffin_Man » May 11th, 2011, 6:26 pm


Could you explain to me what a tier is in junkyard. I'm so confused. :oops:
Tiers are something we use in many events in Science Olympiad to group teams, typically based upon their compliance with the rules. In many cases we don't want a team to be completely dq'd from an event for a minor violation or oversight, yet we want there to be a concrete penalty. To use Junkyard as a specific example, there are 2 tiers:

Tier 1 is the group of teams that do NOT violate any of the rules in any way.
Tier 2 is the group of teams that DO violate the rules in some way (e.g. box is slightly too big, brought some extra balls, didn't impound on time, etc etc). They will be ranked behind all Tier 1 teams regardless of score.

Once we group all the teams into tiers, we then rank them within that tier according to the scoring formula in the rules. Let's say hypothetically you have 4 teams: A, B, C, D.

Teams A and C didn't violate any rules, so they are in Tier 1. Teams B and D violated some of the rules so they are in Tier 2.
The scores the teams got were as follows: A: 10, B: 15, C:5, D:1.
If we didn't tier the teams, the results would be 1st B, 2nd A, 3rd C, 4th D.
But we do tier them, so the actual results are: 1st A, 2nd C, 3rd B, 4th D. Note A and C moved ahead of B because B violated some rules and was in tier 2.
Thanks a lot! :D
So, are they expecting our device to stay there until we test it?

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Re: Junkyard Challenge B

Postby fishman100 » May 12th, 2011, 5:00 pm

Pretty much yes.
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Re: Junkyard Challenge B

Postby Cheese_Muffin_Man » May 12th, 2011, 6:43 pm

Pretty much yes.
Oh god. We got to build it strong then.

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Re: Junkyard Challenge B

Postby fishman100 » May 13th, 2011, 3:49 pm

Also, if your device tips over while/before (before I'm not so sure, but oh well) then that DQ's your team. :(
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Re: Junkyard Challenge B

Postby Cheese_Muffin_Man » May 13th, 2011, 5:53 pm

Also, if your device tips over while/before (before I'm not so sure, but oh well) then that DQ's your team. :(
This two time block for junkyard is horrible. Do you think it is most probable that we will get catapult?


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