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Re: Sumo Bots C

Postby Frogger4907 » May 4th, 2011, 11:05 am

ichaelm wrote:What I mean is that there are some people who will be making the decision who don't like fermi as an event. I do agree though that it's most likely sumo will be removed and fermi will come back. But note the question mark next to fermi in the summer schedule!

that is very true.... as well :)
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Re: Sumo Bots C

Postby penclspinner » May 4th, 2011, 12:29 pm

ichaelm wrote:What I mean is that there are some people who will be making the decision who don't like fermi as an event.


I have not seen any information supporting this assumption, either on this forum or otherwise. Unless you've been personally speaking to any State Directors and/or National Supervisors who have said that they do not like this event I would very careful about making such blanket statements.

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Re: Sumo Bots C

Postby Frogger4907 » May 4th, 2011, 12:32 pm

penclspinner wrote:
ichaelm wrote:What I mean is that there are some people who will be making the decision who don't like fermi as an event.


I have not seen any information supporting this assumption, either on this forum or otherwise. Unless you've been personally speaking to any State Directors and/or National Supervisors who have said that they do not like this event I would very careful about making such blanket statements.

I see why you said that, oh wait... no I don't, because it doesn't even matter.
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Re: Sumo Bots C

Postby Schrodingerscat » May 4th, 2011, 12:59 pm

I would like to point out that question mark could have been used as an abbreviation of the word question, since the full name is Fermi Questions and not to indicate the tentativeness of the event.

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Re: Sumo Bots C

Postby Frogger4907 » May 4th, 2011, 1:09 pm

dang, your smart :P
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Re: Sumo Bots C

Postby illusionist » May 4th, 2011, 1:24 pm

Schrodingerscat, are you a study person? Science Olympiad has many types of events. Next year happens to be one with few interesting build events. Sumobots has been expensive for many teams, and to see it go after only 1 year....... I realize it was difficult to run, but still... I don't see what you could prepare for in Fermi. It just doesn't seem like a real event to me... Anyways, this isn't the right place to discuss this.
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Re: Sumo Bots C

Postby Schrodingerscat » May 4th, 2011, 2:30 pm

I do agree sumo bot is a good event and should be continued. However, I do not think it should continue instead of Fermi. Could it not also fit under the category of Technology and postpone robotic arm another year? I have trouble seeing how it fits as "Inquiry/nature of science" instead of technology and engineering anyway, where Fermi fits easily into that classification.

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Re: Sumo Bots C

Postby illusionist » May 4th, 2011, 3:37 pm

Right, I completely agree with the statement directly above. Sumo Bots is definitely more of an engineering event, and Fermi is more of a Nature-of-Science thing. I personally have a negative view towards events such as Fermi and WIDI. That's just my views. However, I think Fermi would be fun to participate in, just not necessarily in Science Olympiad.
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Re: Sumo Bots C

Postby chalker » May 4th, 2011, 5:19 pm

penclspinner wrote:...... I don't think a few SO'ers complaining on a general forum constitutes as "controversialness" and I'm pretty sure that Fermi is not going to be switched out at the last minute.


Well said and quite true.

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Re: Sumo Bots C

Postby chalker » May 4th, 2011, 5:23 pm

Frogger4907 wrote:
ichaelm wrote:What I mean is that there are some people who will be making the decision who don't like fermi as an event. I do agree though that it's most likely sumo will be removed and fermi will come back. But note the question mark next to fermi in the summer schedule!

that is very true.... as well :)


No it's not. And I don't see any question mark: http://soinc.org/sites/default/files/up ... -26-11.pdf

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Re: Sumo Bots C

Postby illusionist » May 4th, 2011, 5:24 pm

If I may ask, what is the reason that Sumo Bot is leaving? Is it because it was too difficult to run for the event supervisors?
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Re: Sumo Bots C

Postby harryk » May 4th, 2011, 5:27 pm

Urg, if they're going to take out sumo, why replace it with robot arm? At least replace it with something more like robot ramble so we can use the same basic equipment, now I will have to spend more money to buy parts to make a robotic arm
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Re: Sumo Bots C

Postby illusionist » May 4th, 2011, 5:38 pm

I think Robot Arm will be cheaper than Sumo Bots was. A basic kit like Vex will provide many of the parts necessary for this event. Whereas for Sumo Bots, you needed powerful motors, optimal wheels, and other specific materials
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Re: Sumo Bots C

Postby harryk » May 4th, 2011, 7:11 pm

illusionist wrote:I think Robot Arm will be cheaper than Sumo Bots was. A basic kit like Vex will provide many of the parts necessary for this event. Whereas for Sumo Bots, you needed powerful motors, optimal wheels, and other specific materials
Btw, this is my 500th post! :D

I agree that robot arm will be generally cheaper, but there will still be people that will go above and beyond
And for the record the cheapest vex kit is $300
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Re: Sumo Bots C

Postby hscmom » May 5th, 2011, 2:52 pm

Primate wrote:
sj wrote:Well good luck!

In the end it all comes down to who is the better driver. It doesn't matter how much you can push if you can't drive under the other bot...

But at the same time, it doesn't matter how well you can drive if you get stuck on another bot =P. Are you using standard vex motors and wheels?!



Actually our team managed to win when stuck on another bot. The two-wheeled design worked in this case. Their "scoop" (more like a slide, wedge thing) managed to push out the 'bot underneath them.

http://www.youtube.com/user/HomeschoolS ... 0On1QiSk80

Hard to see from that angle though; I'll see if my son's got a better angle on his camera.
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