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Re: Optics B/C

Post by Infinity Flat » May 31st, 2011, 8:31 am

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Infinity Flat wrote:Chalker, can you talk at all about what changes you've made to the laser shoot for next year?
The biggest TENTATIVE fundamental changes are allowing for more mirrors and barriers and removing time as a scoring factor. There are lots of other incremental changes as well, but those mainly reinforce the spirit of the rules or the clarifications that were issued this year.
Ah, very cool. I personally was in favor of the idea posted a while back where the proctors could designate areas that the mirrors couldn't be placed, but the additional mirrors one sounds pretty good as well.
Would one of the "incremental changes" be forbidding the use of templates, perhaps?
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Re: Optics B/C

Post by Sunshine Ninja » June 3rd, 2011, 3:28 pm

Infinity Flat wrote:
chalker wrote:
Infinity Flat wrote:Chalker, can you talk at all about what changes you've made to the laser shoot for next year?
The biggest TENTATIVE fundamental changes are allowing for more mirrors and barriers and removing time as a scoring factor. There are lots of other incremental changes as well, but those mainly reinforce the spirit of the rules or the clarifications that were issued this year.
Ah, very cool. I personally was in favor of the idea posted a while back where the proctors could designate areas that the mirrors couldn't be placed, but the additional mirrors one sounds pretty good as well.
Would one of the "incremental changes" be forbidding the use of templates, perhaps?

Mabby this was just in nc, but weren't they already forbidden??? :?
My team was going to use a template and didn't for that reason.
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Re: Optics B/C

Post by Infinity Flat » June 3rd, 2011, 3:41 pm

Sunshine Ninja wrote:
Infinity Flat wrote:
chalker wrote:\

The biggest TENTATIVE fundamental changes are allowing for more mirrors and barriers and removing time as a scoring factor. There are lots of other incremental changes as well, but those mainly reinforce the spirit of the rules or the clarifications that were issued this year.
Ah, very cool. I personally was in favor of the idea posted a while back where the proctors could designate areas that the mirrors couldn't be placed, but the additional mirrors one sounds pretty good as well.
Would one of the "incremental changes" be forbidding the use of templates, perhaps?

Mabby this was just in nc, but weren't they already forbidden??? :?
My team was going to use a template and didn't for that reason.
The national clarification was that templates were allowed, but state directors were given the option of deciding for themselves within their own state.
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Re: Optics B/C

Post by chalker » June 4th, 2011, 7:19 am

Infinity Flat wrote: The national clarification was that templates were allowed, but state directors were given the option of deciding for themselves within their own state.
The draft rules for next year allow any tool, including templates. We feel we've changed the core problem such that templates really aren't going to give anyone a major advantage.

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Re: Optics B/C

Post by Bogoradwee » June 4th, 2011, 9:21 am

/me high fives Chalker!
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Re: Optics B/C

Post by quizbowl » June 4th, 2011, 10:28 am

Do you think a binder will still be used? Really, besides a few indices of refraction and other constants, most things don't need a binder.
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Re: Optics B/C

Post by chalker » June 4th, 2011, 5:27 pm

quizbowl wrote:Do you think a binder will still be used? Really, besides a few indices of refraction and other constants, most things don't need a binder.
Why don't you take a look at the exam I gave at nationals (http://scioly.org/w/images/5/5d/Optics_ ... xam_11.pdf) and see how many of the questions you can get without a binder.

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Re: Optics B/C

Post by quizbowl » June 4th, 2011, 6:43 pm

chalker wrote:
quizbowl wrote:Do you think a binder will still be used? Really, besides a few indices of refraction and other constants, most things don't need a binder.
Why don't you take a look at the exam I gave at nationals (http://scioly.org/w/images/5/5d/Optics_ ... xam_11.pdf) and see how many of the questions you can get without a binder.
I'm not saying completely get rid of a binder - maybe just a few sheets are necessary.
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Re: Optics B/C

Post by Infinity Flat » June 4th, 2011, 6:45 pm

quizbowl wrote:
chalker wrote:
quizbowl wrote:Do you think a binder will still be used? Really, besides a few indices of refraction and other constants, most things don't need a binder.
Why don't you take a look at the exam I gave at nationals (http://scioly.org/w/images/5/5d/Optics_ ... xam_11.pdf) and see how many of the questions you can get without a binder.
I'm not saying completely get rid of a binder - maybe just a few sheets are necessary.
To be honest, you can probably contain a binder's worth of information on a set of 5 sheets. It's just a lot harder to read. :P
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Re: Optics B/C

Post by Bogoradwee » June 5th, 2011, 4:26 am

Chalker, is there an answer key to that?
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