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Re: Fossils B/C

Postby quizbowl » Sun Aug 15, 2010 11:38 pm

just waiting for the list now. im hoping for some new additions.
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Re: Fossils B/C

Postby lllazar » Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:32 am

I am so psyched for Fossils this year....
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Re: Fossils B/C

Postby paleonaps » Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:55 am

I so hope that I can do fossils this year.
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Re: Fossils B/C

Postby soobsession » Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:08 am

Lists should be out late August right? And there usually arent many changes...

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Re: Fossils B/C

Postby paleonaps » Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:04 pm

Yeah, probably not. I hope there is some more emphasis on vertebrates- the "interesting fossils". ;)
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Re: Fossils B/C

Postby amerikestrel » Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:13 pm

Eh, I hope it doesn't change too much. I liked last year's list.
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Re: Fossils B/C

Postby paleonaps » Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:30 pm

The only change I think they should make is to remove Deinonychus or Velociraptor. They are so closely related, they were both once considered to be the same genus. It's pointless having both of them.
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Not very different. One was bigger than the other, and lived millions of years earlier. There are other differences, but these are the most prominent.
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Re: Fossils B/C

Postby lllazar » Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:00 pm

paleonaps95 wrote:The only change I think they should make is to remove Deinonychus or Velociraptor. They are so closely related, they were both once considered to be the same genus. It's pointless having both of them.
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Not very different. One was bigger than the other, and lived millions of years earlier. There are other differences, but these are the most prominent.


The really annoying thing is that on every fossils test ive ever done - they always have an ID question involving the claw of one of these. I don't know about you but i cannot differentiate between the claws of these 2 genera.
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Re: Fossils B/C

Postby paleonaps » Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:14 pm

Size is the best way. In life, the Velociraptor had a claw about 2.6 inches long on the outer edge. The Deinonychus had a 4.7 inch long claw in life. They are smaller now because they lack a protective sheath of keratin, but one is noticeably smaller than the other.
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Re: Fossils B/C

Postby quizbowl » Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:34 pm

my dislikes were that they always gave questions with both exogyra and gryphaea. i find it pretty simple to distinguish them apart, but at times it just gets so annoying.
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Re: Fossils B/C

Postby paleonaps » Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:39 pm

Yeah, it's annoying. I did fossils at invitationals last year because I love it so much, and they had a question on those. I couldn't tell them apart. (I was out of practice.)
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Re: Fossils B/C

Postby quizbowl » Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:02 pm

being brutally honest, i would much rather have this event be like ornithology; i do not think one necessarily needs 100 pages of notes. i dont think that fossils should have a binder, maybe 5 pages, like remote sensing. really, the biggest part about fossils is identification; you dont (or rather, shouldnt) need a binder for that.
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Re: Fossils B/C

Postby paleonaps » Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:02 am

I think the binder is good, and we don't need it gone. Maybe 5 pages would work, but I think that the way it is is best.
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Re: Fossils B/C

Postby quizbowl » Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:48 pm

in my opinion, fossils is rather an identification event. the information you need really need could probably fit on 5 pages, and this time a field guide would be put to better use. or even make your own field guide.
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