Fossils B/C

Cheesy Pie
Member
Member
Posts: 594
Joined: January 29th, 2011, 4:34 pm
Division: Grad
State: MI
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 0

Re: Fossils B/C

Post by Cheesy Pie » May 23rd, 2011, 12:58 pm

What about div b?
100% of deaths are somehow caused by science.
Don't be a statistic.
Don't do science.

Naperville Central High School '17 :arrow: Michigan State University Physics '21
GO GREEN GO WHITE

User avatar
paleonaps
Exalted Member
Exalted Member
Posts: 1282
Joined: March 7th, 2009, 7:14 am
Division: Grad
State: NY
Location: Turning and turning in the widening gyre
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 0

Re: Fossils B/C

Post by paleonaps » May 23rd, 2011, 12:59 pm

I have a feeling they got 2 minutes.
Brown University 2017
2009 B Division National Ecology Champion
4 time National Medalist
Farewell Science Olympiad. We will meet again.

Cheesy Pie
Member
Member
Posts: 594
Joined: January 29th, 2011, 4:34 pm
Division: Grad
State: MI
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 0

Re: Fossils B/C

Post by Cheesy Pie » May 23rd, 2011, 1:02 pm

Since you know so much about fossils naps (that's awesomeful), maybe you can become a fossils event coordinator. If you do, what would you put on the tests? This is for the future and young sciolyers to get an idea of what to study.
100% of deaths are somehow caused by science.
Don't be a statistic.
Don't do science.

Naperville Central High School '17 :arrow: Michigan State University Physics '21
GO GREEN GO WHITE

User avatar
paleonaps
Exalted Member
Exalted Member
Posts: 1282
Joined: March 7th, 2009, 7:14 am
Division: Grad
State: NY
Location: Turning and turning in the widening gyre
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 0

Re: Fossils B/C

Post by paleonaps » May 23rd, 2011, 1:04 pm

I would love to be one.
I would probably shift the test a little toward vertebrates (my specialty) but would leave it well mixed. I would also write more questions about new discoveries, and make sure the test kept up-to-date.
Brown University 2017
2009 B Division National Ecology Champion
4 time National Medalist
Farewell Science Olympiad. We will meet again.

Cheesy Pie
Member
Member
Posts: 594
Joined: January 29th, 2011, 4:34 pm
Division: Grad
State: MI
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 0

Re: Fossils B/C

Post by Cheesy Pie » May 23rd, 2011, 1:06 pm

Would you put much about plants?
100% of deaths are somehow caused by science.
Don't be a statistic.
Don't do science.

Naperville Central High School '17 :arrow: Michigan State University Physics '21
GO GREEN GO WHITE

User avatar
paleonaps
Exalted Member
Exalted Member
Posts: 1282
Joined: March 7th, 2009, 7:14 am
Division: Grad
State: NY
Location: Turning and turning in the widening gyre
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 0

Re: Fossils B/C

Post by paleonaps » May 23rd, 2011, 1:21 pm

Maybe a station or two.
Brown University 2017
2009 B Division National Ecology Champion
4 time National Medalist
Farewell Science Olympiad. We will meet again.

User avatar
Kokonilly
Exalted Member
Exalted Member
Posts: 631
Joined: January 11th, 2009, 7:59 am
Division: Grad
State: CA
Location: a dumpster
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 0

Re: Fossils B/C

Post by Kokonilly » May 23rd, 2011, 1:32 pm

Varanus wrote:
paleonaps wrote: The suture patterns on the trilobite cephalons was really hard for anyone who didn't have them in their binder. There is no way you could BS the names. If I had actually looked for more info on trilobites, I would have gotten it.
Yeah. The suture patterns were very unexpected. We only knew which suborder each suture pattern resembled [Phacopidae, Ptychopariina, and Calymenina], so we had to compare the cephalon shapes on the test to Calymene and Phacops pictures in our binder. It was useful to have taken pictures of all the fossils on the list in the museum the previous day... and all the fossils in the workshop. Otherwise, we wouldn't have had a picture of Calymene.
Rawr, I wish I had gone to the workshop. >.< We kind of guessed on the suture patterns.
paleonaps wrote:What did you put as the size for the pentaceratops head?
We had absolutely no idea, so we estimated the height of the sign to be 4 feet tall - I made notches on my eraser and we wound up multiplying it by a (convenient) 3 1/4 to get 14 feet. It was probably completely wrong.

User avatar
butter side up
Member
Member
Posts: 136
Joined: January 6th, 2011, 9:52 am
Division: Grad
State: PA
Location: The TARDIS, temporarily stopped at 221B Baker Street
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 0

Re: Fossils B/C

Post by butter side up » May 23rd, 2011, 2:02 pm

Suture pattern ID is difficult. I was able to find something about what they were looking for in an old binder, but before that I was looking for help elsewhere. I was talking to a paleontologist at a local research institute and she said that the suture patterns were only useful for distinguishing between species within groups, not for distinguishing between nautiloids, goniatites, ceratites, and ammonites, as the list asks for. Other authorities confirmed this at other museums. Does anyone have an explanation for this?
I am the one called "TARDIS Hat Girl," and am known as such by all.
2013: Anatomy, Experimental Design, Genetics, Forestry, Disease Detectives

User avatar
germinator
Member
Member
Posts: 100
Joined: February 2nd, 2010, 8:14 pm
Division: C
State: IL
Location: Behind you
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 0
Contact:

Re: Fossils B/C

Post by germinator » May 23rd, 2011, 2:13 pm

well that was fun, wasn't it?
our stations at b were 1:30
don't drink and drive; you might hit a bump and spill your drink

User avatar
Varanus
Member
Member
Posts: 6
Joined: April 14th, 2011, 7:24 pm
Division: Grad
State: MN
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 0

Re: Fossils B/C

Post by Varanus » May 23rd, 2011, 2:31 pm

paleonaps wrote:I wish I had had those in my binder. I may have gotten second.
What did you put as the size for the pentaceratops head?
We had 3 1/2 min.
I wrote 11 feet for the pentaceratops skull question (a total guess/estimate). Our binder placed triceratops skulls at about 7 feet in length, with the largest at 8.2 ft, and I recalled that the frill was about 3 feet long. By comparing the triceratops skull and the pentaceratops skull, we estimated about 4 more feet of frill length and went with the average head size (7ft). According to a random internet source, the correct answer was 10 ft, so our answer would have counted due to the + or - 2 feet part of the question.

Locked

Return to “2011 Study Events”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest