Fossils B/C

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Re: Fossils B/C

Postby quizbowl » August 21st, 2010, 8:15 am

paleonaps95 wrote:Exactly. However, I think it is very likely that Fossils will have one and Ornithology won't.

unfortunately. but my least favorite part about both events is that they are always at the same time at states in new york; my partner does both, and i had to use someone else for fossils..
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Re: Fossils B/C

Postby paleonaps » August 21st, 2010, 8:27 am

They are always at the same time? I find that hard to believe... you do have a different team number than I do.
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Re: Fossils B/C

Postby quizbowl » August 21st, 2010, 8:29 am

for the past three years, the fossils/rocks and minerals event has had the same exact time slot as herpetology/ornithology.

but back on topic, i really hope that they make this list as long as, say ornithology, or at least longer. they've had pretty much the same ones for two years already; i think a change is necessary.
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Re: Fossils B/C

Postby paleonaps » August 21st, 2010, 8:31 am

I doubt that will happen. It would be nice to have some expansion, but I think that the list is of the least value. I think the tests need some guidelines for more information.
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Re: Fossils B/C

Postby sciencegeek100 » August 25th, 2010, 6:21 am

paleonaps95 wrote:I doubt that will happen. It would be nice to have some expansion, but I think that the list is of the least value. I think the tests need some guidelines for more information.


it tells you what they might ask about and I believe there are even sample questions... what hard to understand, its question about the birds on the list, they can ask anything they want from ID common to list all things from phyllum to genus to habitat to habit to food... what explanation is needed...?
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Re: Fossils B/C

Postby paleonaps » August 25th, 2010, 10:06 am

Like telling the writers that they shouldn't focus on taxonomy, but more in-depth questions about the organism.
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Re: Fossils B/C

Postby quizbowl » August 25th, 2010, 10:45 am

paleonaps95 wrote:Like telling the writers that they shouldn't focus on taxonomy, but more in-depth questions about the organism.

zactly.
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Re: Fossils B/C

Postby paleonaps » August 25th, 2010, 11:58 am

Such as:
Theories about it's style of predation.
New discoveries
NOT: Are these pencil-marks or graptolites?
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Re: Fossils B/C

Postby gneissisnice » August 26th, 2010, 12:25 pm

paleonaps95 wrote:Such as:
Theories about it's style of predation.
New discoveries
NOT: Are these pencil-marks or graptolites?


My favorite (from Rocks and Minerals regionals in 10th grade):

Which one of these minerals does not contain an element beginning with O?

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Re: Fossils B/C

Postby IdahoSciGuy » August 26th, 2010, 8:36 pm

/facepalm

I kind of like the current system of fossils tests, at least in my state. The goal of the tests would be to make them completely unfinishable, making competitors multitask the questions, or prioritize. It was chock full of information, and personally, i think that kind of format is an ingenius idea. Probably better for sit down tests that stations, but the same values hold true for both, IMHO.
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Re: Fossils B/C

Postby quizbowl » August 26th, 2010, 9:03 pm

unfortunately its not the same for where i am.
quoting a regional test?

(lingula fossil)
is this a brachiopod?
is it inarticulate?
(points to pedicle) is this the pedicle?
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Re: Fossils B/C

Postby paleonaps » August 27th, 2010, 5:11 am

Our tests are pretty straightforward like that. Although I would like to try an Idaho test.
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Re: Fossils B/C

Postby IdahoSciGuy » August 27th, 2010, 7:36 am

yeah, we do station format, but in the one year i did fossils( 2009), i experianced the hardest test EVAR. It was in station, and there were a good 10-15 questions per station. 2 minutes per station. Some of those questions were short answers.

"Is this an Index Fossil? If so, what time periods does it span, and what does it say about its habitat during its lifetime?"

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Re: Fossils B/C

Postby paleonaps » August 27th, 2010, 9:12 am

Jesus Christ....
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Re: Fossils B/C

Postby quizbowl » August 27th, 2010, 11:12 am

i would enjoy that SO much.
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