Hmmm. Would reading off an H-R Diagram produce an accurate and precise enough reading for the absolute magnitude? When I tried it, my final answer for the distance was on the same order of magnitude as the correct answer, but it wasn't within the allowable range specified in the key. What H-R Diagram are you using? Did you get the correct answer that way?Infinity Flat wrote:For the 2009 test, you want to find out its spectral type (O B A etc) and from there you can approximate its absolute magnitude using an H-R diagram.
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I haven't actually done the test, but I'd assume then that you need to look into the subclasses, like Of or A1V in order to get into the allowable range.luo wrote:Hmmm. Would reading off an H-R Diagram produce an accurate and precise enough reading for the absolute magnitude? When I tried it, my final answer for the distance was on the same order of magnitude as the correct answer, but it wasn't within the allowable range specified in the key. What H-R Diagram are you using? Did you get the correct answer that way?Infinity Flat wrote:For the 2009 test, you want to find out its spectral type (O B A etc) and from there you can approximate its absolute magnitude using an H-R diagram.
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Yes, I think that's what you might have to do, but it seems to me that pinpointing the exact subclass based on a diagram would be very difficult to do precisely. I wonder what the test writer was intending.Infinity Flat wrote:I haven't actually done the test, but I'd assume then that you need to look into the subclasses, like Of or A1V in order to get into the allowable range.
On a separate note, what Astronomy textbooks have people found to be good for this event? I've been using Astronomy: A Self-Teaching Guide, which is clear and concise, but it's definitely not in-depth enough for the material on the Nationals tests.
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I've been using Carrol / Ostlie's Introduction to Modern Astrophysics (2nd Edition).luo wrote:Yes, I think that's what you might have to do, but it seems to me that pinpointing the exact subclass based on a diagram would be very difficult to do precisely. I wonder what the test writer was intending.Infinity Flat wrote:I haven't actually done the test, but I'd assume then that you need to look into the subclasses, like Of or A1V in order to get into the allowable range.
On a separate note, what Astronomy textbooks have people found to be good for this event? I've been using Astronomy: A Self-Teaching Guide, which is clear and concise, but it's definitely not in-depth enough for the material on the Nationals tests.
It's a VERY strong text, and has a good balance have math and concepts.
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Not sure if anyone else has seen this, but a lot of the worksheets here are really good if you want to work on the math.
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Thank you, Infinity. These look awesome.
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11th at nationals, woot! A lot better than I was expecting, and I really enjoyed doing the test. Pacing was key, as was skipping questions you just didn't know / have time to look at. Learned my lesson from diseases earlier that morning
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What are some good textbooks to use to study over the summer?
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For some basic stuff, http://www.astronomynotes.comsalcedam wrote:What are some good textbooks to use to study over the summer?
For more advanced, Carrol & Ostlie's Introduction to Modern Astrophysics.
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Thanks! Do you have any tips for studying the DSO's (once the list comes out)?Infinity Flat wrote:For some basic stuff, http://www.astronomynotes.comsalcedam wrote:What are some good textbooks to use to study over the summer?
For more advanced, Carrol & Ostlie's Introduction to Modern Astrophysics.
2011 - 2012 Season Results:
Whiting, IN - Astro (1st), 4N6 (2nd), Fermi (2nd)
Boyceville, WI - Astro (3rd), 4N6 (1st)
Belvidere, IL - 4N6 (1st), Fermi (2nd)
WSU, OH - 4N6 (12th)
Loyola, IL - 4N6 (1st), Fermi (1st), TPS (3rd)
OCC Regional - 4N6 (1st), Fermi (1st)
UCF Nationals - 4N6 (8th)
Whiting, IN - Astro (1st), 4N6 (2nd), Fermi (2nd)
Boyceville, WI - Astro (3rd), 4N6 (1st)
Belvidere, IL - 4N6 (1st), Fermi (2nd)
WSU, OH - 4N6 (12th)
Loyola, IL - 4N6 (1st), Fermi (1st), TPS (3rd)
OCC Regional - 4N6 (1st), Fermi (1st)
UCF Nationals - 4N6 (8th)
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