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Re: Ornithology B/C

Post by austinfhs » December 6th, 2010, 5:38 pm

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austinfhs wrote:I tried to do this last year, but I wasn't too great at it - I think I'm a bit better than I was last year though, so I'll be able to pick up on some better clues. What marks, for the female birds, should I focus on?
One approach is rote memorization and more flash cards, which I don't trust. What I'd do:
To illustrate what I was getting at, suppose you get this guy. What do you do?
Put your best foot forward; to be honest, mine is that it's a Cactus Wren. I glance at page 2 of the List to get the page in my guide, I look, and the bill ain't right. Knowing that the two are similar-ish but that this guy's browner may be enough to remember it in the stations to come so you can ID it later. If not, I'd start looking through the guide real fast for guidance...and I found it in less than ten seconds. If that doesn't do it for you, take down its field marks. I'd take down the pattern on its breast and the stripe above the eye. You know its bill shape. If at this point you still feel as though you wouldn't have it identified as a female Red-winged Blackbird in reasonable time, then you might want to mark up your Official List and field guide to maximize their usefulness. They are, after all, tools at your disposal.
Try this one, I guess. It's a gift if you know what the male looks like.
Oh man. I just owned by your two examples - I had no idea what they were. I don't have a field guide on me (lent it to my partner), so I couldn't try the second one, but all my guesses don't really seem to be working (I was guessing a flycatcher, but I don't think that's right, what is it?)

I think I'll be purchasing some of those 'junk' field guides and just using some rote memorization, even though that doesn't work. And then possibly having a third member look up random bird pictures, and then just using my field marks to try and ID some. I'm hoping that female birds just don't show up.

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Re: Ornithology B/C

Post by Flavorflav » December 9th, 2010, 10:13 am

You were right, it is a flycatcher.

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Re: Ornithology B/C

Post by amerikestrel » December 9th, 2010, 10:26 am

Flavorflav wrote:You were right, it is a flycatcher.
Yeah, it looks like a female Pyrocephalus rubinus.
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Re: Ornithology B/C

Post by paleonaps » December 9th, 2010, 12:51 pm

Yeah, looks like a Vermillion Flycatcher.
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Re: Ornithology B/C

Post by amerikestrel » December 9th, 2010, 8:17 pm

I had an idea for a scioly/ornith-related posting game, but I don't want to make a thread unless people are willing to play. It was inspired by the above post with the images, and I think it could really help with practicing identification. Basically, someone posts or links to an image of a bird on the list, and everyone tries to identify it. First person to get it right posts the next image. We could even keep track of scores, but that might be overdoing it. Anyone interested?
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Re: Ornithology B/C

Post by austinfhs » December 9th, 2010, 8:19 pm

I love this idea :D It'll also increase some participation in this thread, which is kind of lacking at times.

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Re: Ornithology B/C

Post by amerikestrel » December 10th, 2010, 12:54 pm

austinfhs wrote:I love this idea :D It'll also increase some participation in this thread, which is kind of lacking at times.
I'm actually thinking we could do it in posting games/general chat, but I suppose it could be here too.
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Re: Ornithology B/C

Post by poparteeb2 » December 10th, 2010, 7:08 pm

Erm, I'm not in ornithology, but could anyone in here tell me what type of OWL this is (or if you guys don't know owls, don't bother, it's fine).

I live in New York, and around 10 PM I hear "Hoo-hoo-hoo, hoo"


I haven't actually seen this owl. Anyone have a clue? :roll:
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Re: Ornithology B/C

Post by AlphaTauri » December 10th, 2010, 7:48 pm

Based only on the song, I would guess Great Horned Owl (more likely) or Barred Owl (doubtful- Barred Owls usually hoot eight or so times in a row). Both live year-round in most of the Eastern US, including NY.
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Re: Ornithology B/C

Post by amerikestrel » December 10th, 2010, 9:17 pm

Yeah, it's probably the Great Horned, which is better known for its ''hooing" than other species. The Barred Owl is more of a "who-cooks-for-you-all" pattern. If you could give us any more details that would be helpful.
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