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Re: Ornithology B/C

Posted: January 10th, 2011, 6:01 pm
by chia
The rules say that each person may bring a cheat sheet. does this mean that you can have 2 copies of one sheet or two different pages??
i would also put general information and pictures w/labels about bird eggs/nests, because it came up last year at nats, and my partner and i were completely lost.
Did they show you pictures of the eggs/nests or ask you to describe the eggs/nests?
It makes more sense for it to mean two different cheat sheets.
And I didn't go to nationals, but at our states (or regionals? don't remember) last year we were given pictures of several nests with eggs, and we had to write from which birds they were (I can't remember if it was matching or not).
i would also put general information and pictures w/labels about bird eggs/nests, because it came up last year at nats, and my partner and i were completely lost.
what do you mean information about birds eggs and nests? I was not aware that they had specific parts. Can you please provide a link a picture with this information? Thanks
Not the parts of nests, but identifying which egg or nest belongs to which bird based on a picture/actual one (though you may want to know the parts of the egg as well - stick a diagram of one on your cheat sheets or something).

Re: Ornithology B/C

Posted: January 11th, 2011, 1:00 pm
by tuftedtitmouse12
The rules say that each person may bring a cheat sheet. does this mean that you can have 2 copies of one sheet or two different pages??
i would also put general information and pictures w/labels about bird eggs/nests, because it came up last year at nats, and my partner and i were completely lost.
Did they show you pictures of the eggs/nests or ask you to describe the eggs/nests?
It makes more sense for it to mean two different cheat sheets.
And I didn't go to nationals, but at our states (or regionals? don't remember) last year we were given pictures of several nests with eggs, and we had to write from which birds they were (I can't remember if it was matching or not).
i would also put general information and pictures w/labels about bird eggs/nests, because it came up last year at nats, and my partner and i were completely lost.
what do you mean information about birds eggs and nests? I was not aware that they had specific parts. Can you please provide a link a picture with this information? Thanks
Not the parts of nests, but identifying which egg or nest belongs to which bird based on a picture/actual one (though you may want to know the parts of the egg as well - stick a diagram of one on your cheat sheets or something).
huh...?? that's weird...cuz we didn't have to identify the diff types of bird eggs, but we DID have to label like different parts of the egg, like the air sac and stuff...and me and my partner were soooo unprepared and we got confused....but, there is a chance, cuz identifying what bird's egg that is is probably lots harder than naming the parts and you ARE in division C...

Re: Ornithology B/C

Posted: January 11th, 2011, 4:19 pm
by kjhsscioly
Yeah, we had to do both...

Does anyone have a guidelines on distinctive nests, because they aren't many "unique" nests. I know the ovenbird, swallows and swifts, but really, how can you tell eagle's nests from hawk's nests?

Re: Ornithology B/C

Posted: January 11th, 2011, 10:15 pm
by soccerkid812
Can someone provide a link to a picture or website with a bird egg or nest labeled?
I have looked around and cannot find one.
Thanks

Re: Ornithology B/C

Posted: January 11th, 2011, 10:41 pm
by kjhsscioly
this is a good overview, but you have to consult the list to see what egg each one is on this website:

http://www.boneclones.com/ko-400.htm

Image

Re: Ornithology B/C

Posted: January 12th, 2011, 7:41 pm
by purplepeopleeater
^^ WHOA>... that is REALLY good quality.

Re: Ornithology B/C

Posted: January 12th, 2011, 8:55 pm
by kjhsscioly
Yeah, they are great, but also cost some $725 a set. I have a picture where I wrote in all the names, but I don't know how to put it online. I will see if I can upload to the gallery.

Re: Ornithology B/C

Posted: January 12th, 2011, 9:03 pm
by soccerkid812
Does anyone have a picture or link to a bird's nest with the labeled parts?
I looked but cannot find one.
Thanks!

Re: Ornithology B/C

Posted: January 12th, 2011, 9:05 pm
by kjhsscioly
I am not sure that there are specific "parts" to a nest. You would be better off investigating various building materials.

Re: Ornithology B/C

Posted: January 12th, 2011, 10:26 pm
by kjhsscioly
I looked up some nesting types though,

Egg cup-what robins do, your stereotypical nest
Natural Cavity- owls and woodpeckers, made in trees or already there
Nest box- Human made
Complex weave- made intricately hanging, look up orioles nests to see

also, eggs come in shapes, allowing for adaptations that help visibility or motility