Preliminary: Rocks and Minerals

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Re: Preliminary: Rocks and Minerals

Post by tuftedtitmouse12 » May 25th, 2011, 2:06 pm

ok thanks...i was just going to ask, in general, which guidebooks would you recommend?
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Re: Preliminary: Rocks and Minerals

Post by Wadhk » May 25th, 2011, 5:29 pm

The Smithsonian one's pretty good (for quick info and iding).
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Re: Preliminary: Rocks and Minerals

Post by salcedam » May 25th, 2011, 5:56 pm

Is it safe to assume that the list that will be used is the one from 2008?
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Re: Preliminary: Rocks and Minerals

Post by RespectTheBlade » May 25th, 2011, 6:00 pm

salcedam wrote:Is it safe to assume that the list that will be used is the one from 2008?
I have no idea, but my general guess would be no, as the lists change a bit.

EDIT: As far as guidebooks, I have a nice DK one that is sorted bhy color for minerals and rock type for rocka (igneous, metamorphic, sedimentary.) also has a key for identifying rocks, and info on specific gravity, luster, chemical formulas for minerals, and Moh's scale.
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Re: Preliminary: Rocks and Minerals

Post by pjgscioisamazing » May 25th, 2011, 6:54 pm

The last time Rocks was an event, I used the Simon and Schuster guide of Rocks and Minerals. I thought it was good... did pretty well with it too.
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Re: Preliminary: Rocks and Minerals

Post by salcedam » May 25th, 2011, 9:06 pm

RespectTheBlade wrote:
I have no idea, but my general guess would be no, as the lists change a bit.

EDIT: As far as guidebooks, I have a nice DK one that is sorted bhy color for minerals and rock type for rocka (igneous, metamorphic, sedimentary.) also has a key for identifying rocks, and info on specific gravity, luster, chemical formulas for minerals, and Moh's scale.
What's the name of the guidebook that you have?
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Belvidere, IL - 4N6 (1st), Fermi (2nd)
WSU, OH - 4N6 (12th)
Loyola, IL - 4N6 (1st), Fermi (1st), TPS (3rd)
OCC Regional - 4N6 (1st), Fermi (1st)
UCF Nationals - 4N6 (8th)

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Re: Preliminary: Rocks and Minerals

Post by Mimsie » May 26th, 2011, 5:32 pm

I did R&M my 8th grade year (only once, at state, got 2nd) It is by far my favourite event ever. We used the audubon book. I am SO excited that it's coming back :D

I actually identify by looks (not color, looks - biotite, malachite, muscovite, etc), feel (Graphite, talc), and crystal structure (Almandine, that one is my favourite).
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Re: Preliminary: Rocks and Minerals

Post by Paleofreakazoid » May 26th, 2011, 9:34 pm

SO excited for R&M! I'm named after a mineral :D That is, if I make the team next year . . . :?

EDIT: I mean, I'm still named after a mineral even if I don't make the team . . . just, I won't be as excited . . .
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Re: Preliminary: Rocks and Minerals

Post by Infinity Flat » May 26th, 2011, 9:55 pm

Grabbed two field guides from my school today - Audubon and Peterson. Haven't looked at them too thoroughly yet, but the Audubon one seems better to me - lots of nice pictures and clearly laid out information.
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Re: Preliminary: Rocks and Minerals

Post by gneissisnice » May 27th, 2011, 6:47 am

Mimsie wrote:I did R&M my 8th grade year (only once, at state, got 2nd) It is by far my favourite event ever. We used the audubon book. I am SO excited that it's coming back :D

I actually identify by looks (not color, looks - biotite, malachite, muscovite, etc), feel (Graphite, talc), and crystal structure (Almandine, that one is my favourite).
Almost every mineral can be identified just by look if you get enough practice looking at samples. The rest can be narrowed down and you can tell them apart by hardness or streak, or some other methods (for example, olivine and epidote are generally the same color, weight, and hardness, and they have the same streak, so you basically have to see that olivine can be "suchrosal", or having a texture that's kind of like sugar, and epidote often occurs with hornblende and rhodonite, so if you see any black or pink, it's probably epidote).

Also, I would recommend making a binder rather than using a field guide. Even if you tab it, guides aren't as easy for finding the information you want right away (they typically have the picture and the info in different sections, if I'm not mistaken). You can use a binder and a field guide together if the rules haven't changed, but in all honesty, the only use I ever got from my field guide was letting another team borrow it because they forgot theirs (and I'm pretty good at the event, got 3rd at Nationals when I was in 9th grade).
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