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Re: 2011 Heli Specifications

Posted: January 7th, 2011, 6:31 am
by eta150
smartkid222 wrote:clay, rubber, or metal balast is not allowed.
You must use either glue or tape for extra weight.
Are you serious? I was using clay!
Geez, I missed that...

Re: 2011 Heli Specifications

Posted: January 7th, 2011, 6:46 am
by wlsguy
If you metal is somewhere near the "functional component", it could be described as an attachment and permitted (rule 2b- line 4)

In any case, I do not think this was the intent. Previously in WS ballast could be added made of "any dense material".

I will submit a clarification and follow up.

Thanks,

Re: 2011 Heli Specifications

Posted: February 5th, 2011, 9:37 pm
by Ze_Duke101
hello, just wondering, could I maybe use gears on the rotor?
gears, as in wooden gears...

Re: 2011 Heli Specifications

Posted: February 6th, 2011, 8:05 am
by blue cobra
smartkid222 wrote:clay, rubber, or metal balast is not allowed.
You must use either glue or tape for extra weight.
The rules only specify what materials may be used for the functional components, they do not specify what materials may be used for the non-functional components, so any material should be allowed as ballast. Clay has been allowed at both competitions I've been to.

Re: 2011 Heli Specifications

Posted: February 6th, 2011, 8:56 am
by smartkid222
Since the "any dense material may be used as ballast" line which they had in WS is not included in the helicopter rules and the topic not mentioned in the construction part, it can be argued that ballast is not allowed. That's weird because both at Div B and C states last year they made teams take off the clay.

Re: 2011 Heli Specifications

Posted: February 6th, 2011, 10:59 am
by lllazar
What difference does t make what we use for the ballast? Weight is weight, non?

Re: 2011 Heli Specifications

Posted: February 6th, 2011, 2:18 pm
by blue cobra
lllazar wrote:What difference does t make what we use for the ballast? Weight is weight, non?
The difference is that since clay is not mentioned, like it was in WS, some event supervisors have made students remove the clay, which would cause their heli to be less than 4g, unless they have something else with them that can add enough weight.

Re: 2011 Heli Specifications

Posted: February 12th, 2011, 5:29 pm
by smartkid222
blue cobra wrote:
lllazar wrote:What difference does t make what we use for the ballast? Weight is weight, non?
The difference is that since clay is not mentioned, like it was in WS, some event supervisors have made students remove the clay, which would cause their heli to be less than 4g, unless they have something else with them that can add enough weight.
I sent in a clarification to New York State and they responded back. Any dense material (such as clay) is allowed to be used as ballast(for Div C) in New York.

Re: 2011 Heli Specifications

Posted: February 18th, 2011, 11:46 am
by blue cobra
I sent in a clarification to the National site and they also responded that clay may be used.

Re: 2011 Heli Specifications

Posted: February 21st, 2011, 6:45 pm
by lllazar
Awesomeee.