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Re: New York 2011

Postby smartkid222 » Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:03 pm

quizbowl wrote:
Flavorflav wrote:Buffalo? @#%& Buffalo? What happened to Binghamton?

*grumble grumble*

This is why this site needs a like button.

I was just about to like that comment.
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Re: New York 2011

Postby paleonaps » Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:04 pm

Flavorflav wrote:Buffalo? @#%& Buffalo? What happened to Binghamton?

*grumble grumble*

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Re: New York 2011

Postby andrewwski » Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:36 am

quizbowl wrote:So instead of making States in an area close to most teams, they put it in Canisius College. In Buffalo.
/hello 8 hr drive


Canisius will do a great job with states. They hosted the local regionals for the first time this year, and did an awesome job. I was an event supervisor (originally an assistant, got added at the last minute when one of the supervisors couldn't make it), and the amount of effort that Canisius put in was amazing.

Plus, Buffalo's a nice place...although I am biased. To me, states always equaled a roadtrip. West Point was 7+ hours, and although I never went, everyone in the area that did said the trip was half the fun. Heck, I've done 8 hour bus trips before...they can be fun. Somewhat long...but they could be worse.

For most teams, it probably won't be that much more expensive...you're going to need a bus regardless. If you travel through the night, you can avoid extra hotel nights (that's how my team went to states last year), or prolong the trip and stay extra nights.

I'll start throwing out ideas of how to enjoy the limited time in Buffalo. One, make sure you get chicken wings sometime while you're here (but not from the Anchor Bar...they may have invented the wing, but that doesn't mean they make them very good!)
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Re: New York 2011

Postby paleonaps » Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:44 am

Thanks, andrewwski. I'm sure Buffalo will be fun, but I don't really like long bus rides.
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Postby Flavorflav » Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:12 am

No offense - I actually think Buffalo's a pretty nice town. It's just a really big pain. I'm probably going to have to call in whatever chips I have and do some - *shiver* - fundraising (The horror!) to get the coach bus and the extra night in the hotel.

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Postby personasaurus rex » Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:43 pm

Flavorflav wrote:No offense - I actually think Buffalo's a pretty nice town. It's just a really big pain. I'm probably going to have to call in whatever chips I have and do some - *shiver* - fundraising (The horror!) to get the coach bus and the extra night in the hotel.

Oh come on fundraising is not that horrible! I love our fall car washes and attacking the unfortunate cars that stop at the light for spare change. You'd be surprised at how much a bunch of shameless high schoolers can raise.
And our school never gives us any money so that's how we survive the season anyways. It's a fun time and good team bonding. And you get money.
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Re: New York 2011

Postby quizbowl » Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:57 pm

At this point, I'm just waiting for the schedule to come out for states. I really hope that Harold Miller can finally put the ID events in non-conflicting slots and/or make the conflicts similar for all teams.
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Postby Phenylethylamine » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:31 am

personasaurus rex wrote:
Flavorflav wrote:No offense - I actually think Buffalo's a pretty nice town. It's just a really big pain. I'm probably going to have to call in whatever chips I have and do some - *shiver* - fundraising (The horror!) to get the coach bus and the extra night in the hotel.

Oh come on fundraising is not that horrible! I love our fall car washes and attacking the unfortunate cars that stop at the light for spare change. You'd be surprised at how much a bunch of shameless high schoolers can raise.
And our school never gives us any money so that's how we survive the season anyways. It's a fun time and good team bonding. And you get money.
The problem with fundraising is that my team has never done it before. Sure, in junior high we did a magazine sales fundraiser, but the high school team is (or at least pretends to be) so apathetic that floating the idea of a fundraiser gets a bunch of "...meh"s in response. We often have some tension about what the district will fund, but never enough to actually get people off their butts to fundraise.

Maybe this year. I'd love to go to the Athens invitational, but that would require a truly Herculean fundraising effort on top of the money for a possible extra night at States.
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Re: New York 2011

Postby paleonaps » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:38 am

Car smash. I have mentioned it before. It's all we need.
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Postby andrewwski » Fri Jun 24, 2011 4:01 am

personasaurus rex wrote:
Flavorflav wrote:No offense - I actually think Buffalo's a pretty nice town. It's just a really big pain. I'm probably going to have to call in whatever chips I have and do some - *shiver* - fundraising (The horror!) to get the coach bus and the extra night in the hotel.

Oh come on fundraising is not that horrible! I love our fall car washes and attacking the unfortunate cars that stop at the light for spare change. You'd be surprised at how much a bunch of shameless high schoolers can raise.
And our school never gives us any money so that's how we survive the season anyways. It's a fun time and good team bonding. And you get money.


Agreed. When I did SO in high school we had zero funding from our district. Zero, zilch, nada. It's still that way now, and the team made states this year. They were able to get individual costs down to $30/person by fundraising. That included bus, hotel, etc.

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personasaurus rex wrote:
Flavorflav wrote:No offense - I actually think Buffalo's a pretty nice town. It's just a really big pain. I'm probably going to have to call in whatever chips I have and do some - *shiver* - fundraising (The horror!) to get the coach bus and the extra night in the hotel.

Oh come on fundraising is not that horrible! I love our fall car washes and attacking the unfortunate cars that stop at the light for spare change. You'd be surprised at how much a bunch of shameless high schoolers can raise.
And our school never gives us any money so that's how we survive the season anyways. It's a fun time and good team bonding. And you get money.
The problem with fundraising is that my team has never done it before. Sure, in junior high we did a magazine sales fundraiser, but the high school team is (or at least pretends to be) so apathetic that floating the idea of a fundraiser gets a bunch of "...meh"s in response. We often have some tension about what the district will fund, but never enough to actually get people off their butts to fundraise.

Maybe this year. I'd love to go to the Athens invitational, but that would require a truly Herculean fundraising effort on top of the money for a possible extra night at States.


If you want to achieve something, you've got to work hard at it. If you want to fund a trip, you've got to fundraise. It's not that difficult, and it's not too late to start.

You can start by selling things - even little items can add up. You'd be amazed how many hundreds of dollars can be made by selling suckers for a few weeks. Also pursue larger sources - write to local companies and ask for sponsorship or donations.

The club that I'm president of at college managed to fundraise $7855 last year in monetary donations. It was all just by finding potential sources of funding and pursuing them. On top of that, we got $3560 in materials donated.

Granted, that would be more money than any SO team should ever need - but my point is that the money is there. Just be proactive in looking for it.
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Re: New York 2011

Postby paleonaps » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:49 am

Honestly, pheny, there is actually a lot of fundraising going on in our school. For weeks the band kids were patrolling the hallways with candy, and I believe Yearbook did the same. If we patrolled with little things of pure sodium to blow up, I'm sure people would give us hundreds!
Or maybe we could sell gallium...
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Postby gneissisnice » Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:38 pm

paleonaps wrote:Honestly, pheny, there is actually a lot of fundraising going on in our school. For weeks the band kids were patrolling the hallways with candy, and I believe Yearbook did the same. If we patrolled with little things of pure sodium to blow up, I'm sure people would give us hundreds!
Or maybe we could sell gallium...


I'm pretty sure that selling pure sodium to kids in school is illegal. At least it should be.

You could charge to do people's homework =)
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Re: New York 2011

Postby personasaurus rex » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:29 pm

I suggest car washes and bake sales. Honestly, it's a ton of fun when you start doing it. You don't even have to wash a lot of cars because most of your income comes from nagging people on the street haha.
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Re: New York 2011

Postby paleonaps » Fri Jun 24, 2011 4:00 pm

I wouldn't trust high schoolers with my car.
Gallium, if we could make it work, would be pretty cool.
EDIT: Nevermind it's friggin expensive.
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Re: New York 2011

Postby personasaurus rex » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:06 pm

paleonaps wrote:I wouldn't trust high schoolers with my car.
Gallium, if we could make it work, would be pretty cool.
EDIT: Nevermind it's friggin expensive.

lol, but we're not just normal high schoolers, we're science olympiad nerds who probably know more about cars than the people who are driving them.
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