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Re: New York 2011

Posted: June 20th, 2011, 4:19 pm
by personasaurus rex
whaddupppppp road trip what's gooooooooooddd
i'm so excited!

Re: New York 2011

Posted: June 20th, 2011, 4:19 pm
by quizbowl
It's also pushed back to March 30th and 31st. Cool, more time to panic.

Re: New York 2011

Posted: June 20th, 2011, 4:43 pm
by personasaurus rex
more overlap with spring track... not down with that part.

Re: New York 2011

Posted: June 20th, 2011, 5:11 pm
by gneissisnice
So instead of making States in an area close to most teams, they put it in Canisius College. In Buffalo.
/hello 8 hr drive
Yeah, that's very unfair. It's a looooooong drive for quite a lot of teams. I remember on this thread I joked about having it at Stony Brook, and someone got mad because Long Island is a long drive for some people, but Buffalo is an equally long drive for us Long Islanders.

Re: New York 2011

Posted: June 20th, 2011, 5:14 pm
by quizbowl
And considering 8 teams from WLI, 6 from ELI and 6 from NYC, thats 20 teams, or 40% of the competing teams with 7+ hours of roadtime.

Re: New York 2011

Posted: June 20th, 2011, 5:21 pm
by paleonaps
We can have it at Buffalo if next year it is at Stony Brook, just to make it inconvenient for everyone.

Re: New York 2011

Posted: June 20th, 2011, 5:33 pm
by zyzzyva980
Buffalo's not that bad of a place, guys >_>

Most state competitions do require an overnight trip for the majority of its teams. Look at Texas, for example. If you're capable of winning the state competition, an overnight trip shouldn't be a problem. My team looks forward to them. Sure, it might be a small inconvenience, but at least be glad you're getting the chance to compete. You're probably going to have lots of fun on the trip, that is, if you like your team. And if you don't like your team, well, then it doesn't matter how far away the competition is- you won't have fun either way.

Re: New York 2011

Posted: June 20th, 2011, 5:51 pm
by paleonaps
It is always overnight for us. But 8 hours is going to be AWFUL. My laptop has a terrible battery, and I get antsy after 3 hours on a bus. Couple that with the fact that all of my closest friends (save for one) quit makes it even worse.

Re: New York 2011

Posted: June 20th, 2011, 6:39 pm
by Phenylethylamine
Buffalo's not that bad of a place, guys >_>

Most state competitions do require an overnight trip for the majority of its teams. Look at Texas, for example. If you're capable of winning the state competition, an overnight trip shouldn't be a problem. My team looks forward to them. Sure, it might be a small inconvenience, but at least be glad you're getting the chance to compete. You're probably going to have lots of fun on the trip, that is, if you like your team. And if you don't like your team, well, then it doesn't matter how far away the competition is- you won't have fun either way.
It's not an issue of how bad of a place it is, and like paleonaps said, it's an overnight trip for us even when the drive is only 2-ish hours. But an 8-hour drive is just insanely long. Even the bus ride to DC for Nationals in 2008 wasn't that long, and we left the school at 4 AM for that. We certainly look forward to and enjoy the trips, but the bus ride is by no means the highlight.

Buffalo isn't even close to being central in NY. Upstate/downstate rivalries aside, that's really far west. For a very small fraction of teams, this is much, much closer than the competition has ever been; for everyone else, it's a huge inconvenience.

Re: New York 2011

Posted: June 20th, 2011, 7:37 pm
by quizbowl
Buffalo's not that bad of a place, guys >_>

Most state competitions do require an overnight trip for the majority of its teams. Look at Texas, for example. If you're capable of winning the state competition, an overnight trip shouldn't be a problem. My team looks forward to them. Sure, it might be a small inconvenience, but at least be glad you're getting the chance to compete. You're probably going to have lots of fun on the trip, that is, if you like your team. And if you don't like your team, well, then it doesn't matter how far away the competition is- you won't have fun either way.
It's not an issue of how bad of a place it is, and like paleonaps said, it's an overnight trip for us even when the drive is only 2-ish hours. But an 8-hour drive is just insanely long. Even the bus ride to DC for Nationals in 2008 wasn't that long, and we left the school at 4 AM for that. We certainly look forward to and enjoy the trips, but the bus ride is by no means the highlight.

Buffalo isn't even close to being central in NY. Upstate/downstate rivalries aside, that's really far west. For a very small fraction of teams, this is much, much closer than the competition has ever been; for everyone else, it's a huge inconvenience.
Plus, most teams will have to stay much longer than overnight: considering an 8 hour drive (plus pitstops) and to get there in time to check in for the Friday events would make some teams have to leave Thursday. Also, with the awards ending usually at 6ish, most teams wont get back until very early in the morning, or they have to stay over the night.

Re: New York 2011

Posted: June 20th, 2011, 8:42 pm
by smartkid222
Nooo. This is ridiculous. Buffalo is the farthest possible place from Long Island. Gahh.
Like Phenylethylamine said, that's really far west, pretty much as far west as you could go.

Re: New York 2011

Posted: June 21st, 2011, 7:38 am
by gneissisnice
Buffalo's not that bad of a place, guys >_>

Most state competitions do require an overnight trip for the majority of its teams. Look at Texas, for example. If you're capable of winning the state competition, an overnight trip shouldn't be a problem. My team looks forward to them. Sure, it might be a small inconvenience, but at least be glad you're getting the chance to compete. You're probably going to have lots of fun on the trip, that is, if you like your team. And if you don't like your team, well, then it doesn't matter how far away the competition is- you won't have fun either way.
It's not an issue of how bad of a place it is, and like paleonaps said, it's an overnight trip for us even when the drive is only 2-ish hours. But an 8-hour drive is just insanely long. Even the bus ride to DC for Nationals in 2008 wasn't that long, and we left the school at 4 AM for that. We certainly look forward to and enjoy the trips, but the bus ride is by no means the highlight.

Buffalo isn't even close to being central in NY. Upstate/downstate rivalries aside, that's really far west. For a very small fraction of teams, this is much, much closer than the competition has ever been; for everyone else, it's a huge inconvenience.
Yeah, there's nothing inherently wrong with Buffalo itself (as far as I'm aware, I've never been there), but it's just really far for most teams. It's a nice change for a small fraction of teams, but for all the teams from Long Island and from southern New York, it's a very very very long drive.

States has always been an overnight trip for us. That's not the problem; we enjoy staying overnight. But spending a total 16 hours in the bus round trip is a bit excessive.

And while playing Mario Kart DS on the bus ride is a Ward Melville tradition, I'm not sure if anyone can handle 8 hours of Mario Kart.

Re: New York 2011

Posted: June 21st, 2011, 7:40 am
by personasaurus rex
Well I don't see why everyone's complaining. I think it's awesome that we get a long roadtrip with friends and hotel overnights...
Personally, I get bored of driving less than an hour to states and having to be bussed there on Saturday morning again since I lived so close... This is going to be so much fun!

Re: New York 2011

Posted: June 21st, 2011, 7:43 am
by gneissisnice
Well I don't see why everyone's complaining. I think it's awesome that we get a long roadtrip with friends and hotel overnights...
Personally, I get bored of driving less than an hour to states and having to be bussed there on Saturday morning again since I lived so close... This is going to be so much fun!
Hotels are fun. 8 hours of driving isn't.

Though I guess it's a moot point, since nothing's gonna change the venue.

Re: New York 2011

Posted: June 21st, 2011, 7:52 am
by quizbowl
Now that all the events are out, it's go time! Do you think that MagLev will change much next year?