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Re: Pennsylvania 2011

Posted: May 26th, 2011, 6:17 pm
by havenguy
Alright. Anyone have any idea why PA doesn't allow it?
Lack of space? Georgia does separate Div C and B Regionals for a total of 11-12 competitions. Also we have open regionals, so schools list their 1 through 3 location choices and the State Director can balance the numbers if needed.
Maybe. What I was thinking was that teams maybe weren't big enough. I don't know that many teams that have 2 or more teams.

Re: Pennsylvania 2011

Posted: May 26th, 2011, 6:36 pm
by kentuckyfan1001
Alright. Anyone have any idea why PA doesn't allow it?
Lack of space? Georgia does separate Div C and B Regionals for a total of 11-12 competitions. Also we have open regionals, so schools list their 1 through 3 location choices and the State Director can balance the numbers if needed.
Maybe. What I was thinking was that teams maybe weren't big enough. I don't know that many teams that have 2 or more teams.
I know in Ohio they allow multiple teams at regionals, but not states.

I think in some states that allow multiple teams at states...

Re: Pennsylvania 2011

Posted: May 26th, 2011, 6:44 pm
by havenguy
I don't think that is allowed at states. It might also be unfair if both the teams from one school win, and two teams are allowed to go from that state. That way only 1 school would go and it wouldn't be as exciting.

Re: Pennsylvania 2011

Posted: May 26th, 2011, 6:52 pm
by kentuckyfan1001
I don't think that is allowed at states. It might also be unfair if both the teams from one school win, and two teams are allowed to go from that state. That way only 1 school would go and it wouldn't be as exciting.
That is quite true, havenguy. You must be right. In Michigan, Lakeshore Middle School and White Pines Middle School both feed into Grand Haven High School. It must not be fun for every team at states except for those guys and West Ottawa, heh

Re: Pennsylvania 2011

Posted: May 27th, 2011, 11:08 am
by rfscoach
I don't think that is allowed at states. It might also be unfair if both the teams from one school win, and two teams are allowed to go from that state. That way only 1 school would go and it wouldn't be as exciting.
States with small numbers of teams allow multiple teams from one school at the state tournament. They only send one team per division on to Nationals anyway.

Re: Pennsylvania 2011

Posted: May 27th, 2011, 12:05 pm
by havenguy
I don't think that is allowed at states. It might also be unfair if both the teams from one school win, and two teams are allowed to go from that state. That way only 1 school would go and it wouldn't be as exciting.
States with small numbers of teams allow multiple teams from one school at the state tournament. They only send one team per division on to Nationals anyway.
I think that's fairly reasonable. It gives kids a chance to compete, and also gives them experience. But since Scioly is always growing, that might not happen in 10 or 15 years, because there will be many teams in each state.

Re: Pennsylvania 2011

Posted: May 27th, 2011, 3:44 pm
by iYOA
I don't think that is allowed at states. It might also be unfair if both the teams from one school win, and two teams are allowed to go from that state. That way only 1 school would go and it wouldn't be as exciting.
maybe they can still let both teams from a school go to states but just limit nationals to one team per school so that if both teams from a school do win, only one will be able to go and the second team can be the 3rd place school.

Re: Pennsylvania 2011

Posted: May 28th, 2011, 6:47 am
by fishman100
Interesting discussion.

I know that in VA, only 19 teams in Div B competed-one per school, yet we still sent one team to nationals.

Which states allow multiple teams in states? Va is pretty small compared to Ohio, Georgia, Michigan, etc.

Re: Pennsylvania 2011

Posted: May 28th, 2011, 7:46 am
by havenguy
Yeah, which state allows 2 teams from the same school?

Re: Pennsylvania 2011

Posted: May 28th, 2011, 1:03 pm
by rfscoach
Yeah, which state allows 2 teams from the same school?
States too small to hold regionals, example: Iowa, Maine, Oregon, Wyoming etc. States that hold Regionals but their total number of teams is less than or equal to the number they allow at State, example : Utah, Minnesota Div B. And then there is Alabama - the weird one, they send the top 20% of TEAMS (Not Schools) from Regionals on to State. From there the top 2 Schools (Not Teams) move on to Nationals (Div B only, Div C is smaller and only sends 1 team to Nats)

Re: Pennsylvania 2011

Posted: May 28th, 2011, 1:23 pm
by havenguy
Yeah, which state allows 2 teams from the same school?
States too small to hold regionals, example: Iowa, Maine, Oregon, Wyoming etc. States that hold Regionals but their total number of teams is less than or equal to the number they allow at State, example : Utah, Minnesota Div B. And then there is Alabama - the weird one, they send the top 20% of TEAMS (Not Schools) from Regionals on to State. From there the top 2 Schools (Not Teams) move on to Nationals (Div B only, Div C is smaller and only sends 1 team to Nats)
Why does Alabama do that? It seems quite disorganized (no offense)

Re: Pennsylvania 2011

Posted: May 31st, 2011, 4:07 pm
by mingtian
Maybe they have a couple of powerhouses.

Re: Pennsylvania 2011

Posted: June 1st, 2011, 1:29 pm
by kentuckyfan1001
Does anyone know what invitationals Harriton or Penncrest attend?
Also, do any Pennsylvania invitationals draw schools like Fayetteville-Manlius and Ward-Melville or West-Windsor Plainsboro?
I've heard that Athens invitational draws these teams, and that would make that invitational arguably one of the strongest in the country.

Re: Pennsylvania 2011

Posted: June 1st, 2011, 1:53 pm
by quizbowl
Does anyone know what invitationals Harriton or Penncrest attend?
Also, do any Pennsylvania invitationals draw schools like Fayetteville-Manlius and Ward-Melville or West-Windsor Plainsboro?
I've heard that Athens invitational draws these teams, and that would make that invitational arguably one of the strongest in the country.
Both Penncrest and Harriton attend Conestoga, so does WWP. However, they all do go to Athens (so did Mentor from OH)

Re: Pennsylvania 2011

Posted: June 1st, 2011, 7:05 pm
by ILoveEgretsClub
Does anyone know what invitationals Harriton or Penncrest attend?
Also, do any Pennsylvania invitationals draw schools like Fayetteville-Manlius and Ward-Melville or West-Windsor Plainsboro?
I've heard that Athens invitational draws these teams, and that would make that invitational arguably one of the strongest in the country.
Hahaha, I wish...out school district would go insane with 2 invitationals. (Gelinas attends the RCS)

WM doesn't go to any invites as far as i know.