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Postby paleonaps » September 25th, 2010, 2:49 pm

Is it ever too early to plan for it?
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Postby starpug » September 25th, 2010, 4:13 pm

paleonaps95 wrote:Is it ever too early to plan for it?

How about we all make sure we make nationals before we get into this
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Postby zyzzyva980 » September 25th, 2010, 4:20 pm

Yes, let's. If there's one thing I hate about Science Olympiad, it's teams that are so confident that they're going to go to nationals in September. Once you get past states, then I think it's the perfect time to start planning for nationals- if you get there.
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Re: Nationals Swap Meet 2011!

Postby paleonaps » September 25th, 2010, 4:45 pm

So, I assume now everyone hates me for starting this thread. I noticed a lot of swap meet stuff clogging up the first thread, so I figured it was best to give it it's own thread.
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Re: Nationals Swap Meet 2011!

Postby lllazar » September 25th, 2010, 8:17 pm

zyzzyva98 wrote:Yes, let's. If there's one thing I hate about Science Olympiad, it's teams that are so confident that they're going to go to nationals in September. Once you get past states, then I think it's the perfect time to start planning for nationals- if you get there.


I don't know about other states but in Illinois, New Trier gets first every year...for the past 8 years. And on the off chance that they get 2nd, theyre still going to nats....and Illinois is actually competitive, not so much as NY, but even there, i'm pretty sure FM gets 1st/2nd every year...

I'm not saying your wrong, i just wanted to point out that for some teams (like FM) its Nationals or...http://www.epicfail.com/images/darth-va ... c-fail.jpg followed by http://www.coolest-gadgets.com/wp-conte ... star-7.jpg.
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Postby sciolykid101 » September 25th, 2010, 9:29 pm

starpug wrote:
paleonaps95 wrote:Is it ever too early to plan for it?

How about we all make sure we make nationals before we get into this

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Postby paleonaps » September 26th, 2010, 4:07 am

lllazar wrote:
zyzzyva98 wrote:Yes, let's. If there's one thing I hate about Science Olympiad, it's teams that are so confident that they're going to go to nationals in September. Once you get past states, then I think it's the perfect time to start planning for nationals- if you get there.


I don't know about other states but in Illinois, New Trier gets first every year...for the past 8 years. And on the off chance that they get 2nd, theyre still going to nats....and Illinois is actually competitive, not so much as NY, but even there, i'm pretty sure FM gets 1st/2nd every year...

I'm not saying your wrong, i just wanted to point out that for some teams (like FM) its Nationals or...http://www.epicfail.com/images/darth-va ... c-fail.jpg followed by http://www.coolest-gadgets.com/wp-conte ... star-7.jpg.

FM has gotten first every year for something like ten years. However, their reign may soon fall.
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Postby starpug » September 26th, 2010, 5:40 am

lllazar wrote:
zyzzyva98 wrote:Yes, let's. If there's one thing I hate about Science Olympiad, it's teams that are so confident that they're going to go to nationals in September. Once you get past states, then I think it's the perfect time to start planning for nationals- if you get there.


I don't know about other states but in Illinois, New Trier gets first every year...for the past 8 years. And on the off chance that they get 2nd, theyre still going to nats....and Illinois is actually competitive, not so much as NY, but even there, i'm pretty sure FM gets 1st/2nd every year...

I'm not saying your wrong, i just wanted to point out that for some teams (like FM) its Nationals or...http://www.epicfail.com/images/darth-va ... c-fail.jpg followed by http://www.coolest-gadgets.com/wp-conte ... star-7.jpg.

Unless you have a crystal ball, no one knows what will happen at states. I've seen teams who no one expected to do well have incredible days. I've never actually seen the incumbent team defeated, but I've seen them heavily challenged by other teams on multiple occasions. All it would have taken were a few points here and there and the team that was expecting to go to nationals for the x straight year wouldn't have made it to nationals.

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Postby robotman » September 26th, 2010, 6:41 am

Texas is a good example of a long standing team being ousted. one of the teams had been going to nationals for almost 5 straight years and another one of the teams has been going for 8 years. both where beaten

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Postby rocketman1555 » September 26th, 2010, 7:30 am

Of course in TX incumbent teams normally only have a reign for a few years, normally no more than 4 or 5, which is about the time it takes for students to cycle through.
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Re: Nationals Swap Meet 2011!

Postby lllazar » September 26th, 2010, 1:33 pm

starpug wrote:
If you wish I could find you numerous occasions of the long reigning scioly regime being toppled.


I never said these regimes don't come to an end, all i said was that these generally long lasting reigns (5+ years) are good ways to predict who will go to nats. I don't have a crystal ball, but are you telling me that ^that^ doesn't make sense?
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Re: Nationals Swap Meet 2011!

Postby personasaurus rex » September 27th, 2010, 1:16 pm

paleonaps wrote:
lllazar wrote:
zyzzyva98 wrote:Yes, let's. If there's one thing I hate about Science Olympiad, it's teams that are so confident that they're going to go to nationals in September. Once you get past states, then I think it's the perfect time to start planning for nationals- if you get there.


I don't know about other states but in Illinois, New Trier gets first every year...for the past 8 years. And on the off chance that they get 2nd, theyre still going to nats....and Illinois is actually competitive, not so much as NY, but even there, i'm pretty sure FM gets 1st/2nd every year...

I'm not saying your wrong, i just wanted to point out that for some teams (like FM) its Nationals or...http://www.epicfail.com/images/darth-va ... c-fail.jpg followed by http://www.coolest-gadgets.com/wp-conte ... star-7.jpg.

FM has gotten first every year for something like ten years. However, their reign may soon fall.

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Re: Nationals Swap Meet 2011!

Postby starpug » September 27th, 2010, 2:28 pm

Pretty sure Naps goes to WM.

And Illazar, that makes sense, but the fact that the regimes could end at basically any time makes this thread pretty useless for the time being.
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Re: Nationals Swap Meet 2011!

Postby gpallen » September 27th, 2010, 3:31 pm

starpug wrote:Pretty sure Naps goes to WM.

And Illazar, that makes sense, but the fact that the regimes could end at basically any time makes this thread pretty useless for the time being.

Oh my God is WM that good this year?

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Re: Nationals Swap Meet 2011!

Postby RandomPerson » September 27th, 2010, 4:31 pm

paleonaps wrote:FM has gotten first every year for something like ten years. However, their reign may soon fall.

I certainly admire your optimism, but just by patterns, if you wanted a year where FM was weak, that was last year. Now their team will be a majority in juniors as opposed to sophomores. Still that doesn't mean you can't beat them, but they won't be a pushover.
And to clarify I think FM has a 11 year record for first (pretty sure on that). The year before that they got 2nd, and they hadn't gone to nationals before that 2nd place.
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