2018 Solon High School Invitational
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Re: 2018 Solon High School Invitational
Ok so here’s the scoop on scores and results. As is typical for host schools, we will not be winning medals or trophies during our awards ceremony.
We have discussed at length whether to release our own results (we have not done so in the past) and decided not to (which is a change from my post last fall). This decision mostly hinges on our intent to allow all 40+ members of our club to compete, some of whom will compete under different team numbers for different events. Additionally, some of our students have been asked to review the submitted tests and exams for their events, or have asked to try an event for fun. In short, we don’t believe our scores will be a fair representation.
As we did last year, we WILL be releasing raw scores with as much detail as possible. These will be sent to coaches and accompany the electronic copies of our tests and keys.
We have discussed at length whether to release our own results (we have not done so in the past) and decided not to (which is a change from my post last fall). This decision mostly hinges on our intent to allow all 40+ members of our club to compete, some of whom will compete under different team numbers for different events. Additionally, some of our students have been asked to review the submitted tests and exams for their events, or have asked to try an event for fun. In short, we don’t believe our scores will be a fair representation.
As we did last year, we WILL be releasing raw scores with as much detail as possible. These will be sent to coaches and accompany the electronic copies of our tests and keys.
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Re: 2018 Solon High School Invitational
I'm sure it's culturally influenced. Generally the top IL teams don't host invites, and those that do will otherwise compete as normal and rank themselves - whereas in Ohio it's generally different.GoldenKnight1 wrote:I know that Solon has done this before at their invitational and Mentor does it at theirs. Rather than considering it "sketchy" I always thought it was classy. They are hosting the tournament and they are letting the tournament be less about their team and more about their guests. Also since tests were submitted ahead of time it removes the possibility of results being questioned if the hosting school does really well.ScottMaurer19 wrote:Pretty standard from past Solon HS invites.Ashernoel wrote:It sounds sketchy to totally hide raw scores and placements... idk though, just me.
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Re: 2018 Solon High School Invitational
On an unrelated note - would anyone attending be interested in a Scioly meetup to put faces with names? I am sure we can find a room near our auditorium for a brief meetup prior to awards. PM or reply if you're interested so I can gauge whether this would be worthwhile.
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Re: 2018 Solon High School Invitational
I think that would be fun, except I don’t know if I can because Div C and Div B are in different places.
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Re: 2018 Solon High School Invitational
Yea that would be something to ask the MS coaches about.Froggie wrote:I think that would be fun, except I don’t know if I can because Div C and Div B are in different places.
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Re: 2018 Solon High School Invitational
If I may ask—what will the awards be? Since there will be no medalling and trophies?
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Re: 2018 Solon High School Invitational
No medalling and trophies for the Solon students. There will be medals for individual events (top 8) and for team awards there are trophies (also top 8?)DarthBuilder wrote:If I may ask—what will the awards be? Since there will be no medalling and trophies?
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Re: 2018 Solon High School Invitational
@unome That’s an interesting way of looking at it! In Illinois, hidden raw scores, or not even bringing a build, almost always mean someone is trying to hide their performance. Ive heard of Mira loma doing this, but in Illinois it’s sketchy when it happens.
Anyway, I thought it would be cool to see how my events due against a top nats team. *cough Solon mission*
Anyway, I thought it would be cool to see how my events due against a top nats team. *cough Solon mission*
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Re: 2018 Solon High School Invitational
Solon isn't "hiding" their builds and scores, they just want to ensure that their competition's emphasis is on their guests and not themselves (which I feel is very fair and justified). Additionally for a build event such as mission where the max score is relatively capped (other than size dimensions and the timer realistically), it shouldnt matter to you what other teams are getting. You should be able to set an obtainable goal for your device without needing to see other team's scores solely based on the scoring rubric and the knowledge that top national teams will have all tasks, relatively accurate chemical clock (prob +/-4 or 5 seconds), and relatively small size (def less than approx 30cm on each length).Ashernoel wrote:@unome That’s an interesting way of looking at it! In Illinois, hidden raw scores, or not even bringing a build, almost always mean someone is trying to hide their performance. Ive heard of Mira loma doing this, but in Illinois it’s sketchy when it happens.
Anyway, I thought it would be cool to see how my events due against a top nats team. *cough Solon mission*
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Re: 2018 Solon High School Invitational
I think his point with mission is he wants to see my scoreswindu34 wrote:Solon isn't "hiding" their builds and scores, they just want to ensure that their competition's emphasis is on their guests and not themselves (which I feel is very fair and justified). Additionally for a build event such as mission where the max score is relatively capped (other than size dimensions and the timer realistically), it shouldnt matter to you what other teams are getting. You should be able to set an obtainable goal for your device without needing to see other team's scores solely based on the scoring rubric and the knowledge that top national teams will have all tasks, relatively accurate chemical clock (prob +/-4 or 5 seconds), and relatively small size (def less than approx 30cm on each length).Ashernoel wrote:@unome That’s an interesting way of looking at it! In Illinois, hidden raw scores, or not even bringing a build, almost always mean someone is trying to hide their performance. Ive heard of Mira loma doing this, but in Illinois it’s sketchy when it happens.
Anyway, I thought it would be cool to see how my events due against a top nats team. *cough Solon mission*
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2017 (r/s/n): Hydro: 3/5/18 Robot Arm: na/1/1 Rocks: 1/1/1 2018 (r/s/n): Heli: 2/1/7 Herp: 1/4/4 Mission: 1/1/6 Rocks: 1/1/1 Eco: 6/3/9 2019 (r/s/n): Fossils: 1/1/1 GLM: 1/1/1 Herp: 1/1/5 Mission: 1/1/3 WS: 4/1/10 Top 3 Medals: 144 Golds: 80
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