syo_astro wrote:So I went to Syosset too. Maybe this will sound a bit like "back in my day!"...whatever. When I competed it didn't seem like GNS/Stuy could ever get top 5 or 6. They might've a few times (I forget, maybe GNS, but certainly not often). I recall them definitely getting top 10, but there were just so many teams shooting for those spots, and there still are! Just because a lot of teams are at the top, it certainly doesn't stop things from changing, especially one that still gets top 10 like Syosset.
Next, adding more schools sounds like more of a bandaid. Even if you up the number of nats spots to 3, there will be a vast majority of teams and teams that will be very miffed at effectively never being able to make it. I won't go into the example issues because East covers this well. Also, You can bet the current top 3 will NOT back down from fighting for their spots, quite the opposite since they can all go.
For middle schools, I don't really know how the state competition works as well because I didn't go to as competitive a middle school, but what I hear is it is heavily coach-dependent, so I'm unsure how upping the amount of teams would help things all that much (as it seems much more consistent and even less likely to change overall).
I don't mean to sound unsympathetic, as I came from your HS too, but I do think there is a bit of a deeper perspective to be had *because* I came from your HS...
I definitely agree with this, and it's very unrealistic to add more teams especially with states such as Texas missing out on thier second bid. I personally believe that nats should be a representation of the best teams in the country but that's unrealistic to figure out who's the best, and this is the best option available. I guess I'm just kinda annoyed with the same teams dominating states that makes it feel hopeless and lowers overall motivation. They gave the effort and deserve to go to nats, and I guess I feel it's unfair the same teams are going year after year, even though this is the best system possible. Obviously the rise of a team like Mason is definitely possible, but with top teams getting more and more experience, these rises are being rarer, especially if teams are lacking motivation.
It's definitely possible to get a team to nats from any current state, but I feel like this task is nearly impossible without some sort of influence to motivate them beyond already extremely motivated teams.
Yeah and I guess if you somehow magically added like 10 spots somehow 15th place would be complaining.