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chessbucket wrote:
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saathvik02 wrote:How are you guys planning on raising the platform?
I'm not an expert, but I would think that a scissor jack or a hydraulic jack would work. Such a hydraulic jack might use gravity + an electrically controlled pump. Thoughts?
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I don't believe there's supposed to be an "and" there my friend.
Changes the meaning quite a bit. haha
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chessbucket wrote:
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saathvik02 wrote:How are you guys planning on raising the platform?
I'm not an expert, but I would think that a scissor jack or a hydraulic jack would work. Such a hydraulic jack might use gravity + an electrically controlled pump. Thoughts?
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question about the lifting of the platform, does it have to lift the full 20cm before leaving the outside of the device dimensions, or can it rise some of that above the actual device? im assuming the first one, but i just want to check to be sure
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C8H10N4O2! wrote:question about the lifting of the platform, does it have to lift the full 20cm before leaving the outside of the device dimensions, or can it rise some of that above the actual device? im assuming the first one, but i just want to check to be sure
I had the same concerns. I'd say an FAQ is necessary here.
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I think 4.c. answers this "the device must raise a... platform... a vertical distance of at least 20.0 cm before it becomes the highest point of the device."
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beaverkid wrote:I think 4.c. answers this "the device must raise a... platform... a vertical distance of at least 20.0 cm before it becomes the highest point of the device."
Agreed. Either way, remember these three things:
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Does the final height of the battery and platform when it becomes the "highest point of the device" need to remain within the 60cm height limitation? I would think so, since it is part of the operation, and 3a states that "During operation, device dimensions can be no greater than... 60.0 cm (H)."
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djturner wrote:Does the final height of the battery and platform when it becomes the "highest point of the device" need to remain within the 60cm height limitation? I would think so, since it is part of the operation, and 3a states that "During operation, device dimensions can be no greater than 60.0 cm (D) x 60.0 cm (W) x 60.0 cm (H)."
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2. Read 6.b.i.
It says that the final action is excluded from the exceeding the 60 cm penalty.
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PM2017 wrote:
djturner wrote:Does the final height of the battery and platform when it becomes the "highest point of the device" need to remain within the 60cm height limitation? I would think so, since it is part of the operation, and 3a states that "During operation, device dimensions can be no greater than 60.0 cm (D) x 60.0 cm (W) x 60.0 cm (H)."
Two things:
1. Quote as little as possible from the rules; I think there are some copyright issues.

2. Read 6.b.i.
It says that the final action is excluded from the exceeding the 60 cm penalty.
My understanding is that brief quotes are acceptable as long as you are acknowledging them as quotes (rather than taking credit).

I would agree with this interpretation. However, I would also comment that there are some complex issues around when the device dimensions should be measured, whether they can change during operation, and when you incur the 6.b.i. penalty vs. the 6.c. penalty. These have not been resolved, although I have several submitted FAQs and I know they are being actively discussed.
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nicholasmaurer wrote:
PM2017 wrote:
djturner wrote:Does the final height of the battery and platform when it becomes the "highest point of the device" need to remain within the 60cm height limitation? I would think so, since it is part of the operation, and 3a states that "During operation, device dimensions can be no greater than 60.0 cm (D) x 60.0 cm (W) x 60.0 cm (H)."
Two things:
1. Quote as little as possible from the rules; I think there are some copyright issues.

2. Read 6.b.i.
It says that the final action is excluded from the exceeding the 60 cm penalty.
My understanding is that brief quotes are acceptable as long as you are acknowledging them as quotes (rather than taking credit).

I would agree with this interpretation. However, I would also comment that there are some complex issues around when the device dimensions should be measured, whether they can change during operation, and when you incur the 6.b.i. penalty vs. the 6.c. penalty. These have not been resolved, although I have several submitted FAQs and I know they are being actively discussed.
I spoke about an hour too soon. The FAQs about device dimensions have been answered.
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