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Re: Codebusters C

Postby jimmy-bond » February 24th, 2019, 9:14 am

Which way did you write the DREW BREES matrix? With the letters readable horizontally or vertically?
Idk how to put a matrix but I did

D R
E W
B R
E E
S
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Re: Codebusters C

Postby Longivitis » February 24th, 2019, 2:13 pm

Which way did you write the DREW BREES matrix? With the letters readable horizontally or vertically?
Idk how to put a matrix but I did

D R
E W
B R
E E
S
It's supposed to be
D
R
E
W
B
R
E
E
S
(Z)

and then multiply by the 2x2 matrix keyword
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Re: Codebusters C

Postby UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F » February 24th, 2019, 2:48 pm

Which way did you write the DREW BREES matrix? With the letters readable horizontally or vertically?
Idk how to put a matrix but I did

D R
E W
B R
E E
S
It's supposed to be
D
R
E
W
B
R
E
E
S
(Z)

and then multiply by the 2x2 matrix keyword
You can't multiply those two matrices. They don't line up. It's supposed to be
the VEAR matrix multiplied by
and then the VEAR matrix multiplied by
etc., etc., I believe.

Although annoyingly, it's not evenly split into chunks of 2 so you'd have to insert an extra letter at the end.

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Re: Codebusters C

Postby Longivitis » February 24th, 2019, 6:29 pm

Idk how to put a matrix but I did

D R
E W
B R
E E
S
It's supposed to be
D
R
E
W
B
R
E
E
S
(Z)

and then multiply by the 2x2 matrix keyword
You can't multiply those two matrices. They don't line up. It's supposed to be
the VEAR matrix multiplied by
and then the VEAR matrix multiplied by
etc., etc., I believe.

Although annoyingly, it's not evenly split into chunks of 2 so you'd have to insert an extra letter at the end.
Yeah, that's what I meant guess I really wasn't clear enough.
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Re: Codebusters C

Postby dragonfruit35 » February 24th, 2019, 6:33 pm


It's supposed to be
D
R
E
W
B
R
E
E
S
(Z)

and then multiply by the 2x2 matrix keyword
You can't multiply those two matrices. They don't line up. It's supposed to be
the VEAR matrix multiplied by
and then the VEAR matrix multiplied by
etc., etc., I believe.

Although annoyingly, it's not evenly split into chunks of 2 so you'd have to insert an extra letter at the end.
Yeah, that's what I meant guess I really wasn't clear enough.
Yeah, UTF is right, it should be multiplied by the encryption key, in whichever orientation they gave it to you, to be clear.
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Re: Codebusters C

Postby SpicyCurry » February 26th, 2019, 9:44 am

So quick questions. Around how many questions are there on a code busters test at the various levels (regionals, state, nationals)? Also I know I depends on the type of cipher, but what is a good average time per cipher?

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Re: Codebusters C

Postby l0lit » February 26th, 2019, 3:20 pm

So quick questions. Around how many questions are there on a code busters test at the various levels (regionals, state, nationals)? Also I know I depends on the type of cipher, but what is a good average time per cipher?
You can expect ideally 15 questions per test, and a good solve time ranges from like 1 min (a caesar or something) to like 10 mins (no hint patristo?). Again, those times depend completely on what you're comfortable with.
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Re: Codebusters C

Postby jimmy-bond » February 26th, 2019, 4:21 pm

So quick questions. Around how many questions are there on a code busters test at the various levels (regionals, state, nationals)? Also I know I depends on the type of cipher, but what is a good average time per cipher?
You can expect ideally 15 questions per test, and a good solve time ranges from like 1 min (a caesar or something) to like 10 mins (no hint patristo?). Again, those times depend completely on what you're comfortable with.
Agree. An extremely well-rounded person should average 5 minutes/cipher, with patristocrats balancing out stuff like decryption matrix and affine.
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Re: Codebusters C

Postby ducharmezac » February 28th, 2019, 4:54 am

Does anyone have any tricks on how to do xenocrypt without knowing spanish? I feel like there's gotta be a trick somewhere that I'm missing.

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Re: Codebusters C

Postby Longivitis » February 28th, 2019, 7:22 am

Does anyone have any tricks on how to do xenocrypt without knowing spanish? I feel like there's gotta be a trick somewhere that I'm missing.
Well the thing is that E and A are the most frequent letters, but they have relatively the same frequency. It's better to target the two letter words, because there is only so many two letter spanish words. The message itself should not be that difficult, with using spanish words that are similar to the english translation. If you have somewhat decent spanish experience, you can solve them pretty easily, just know the common words and frequencies.

Or get a spanish-speaking person on your team like I did and not worry about that too much.
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