## Codebusters C

jimmy-bond
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### Re: Codebusters C

Which way did you write the DREW BREES matrix? With the letters readable horizontally or vertically?
Idk how to put a matrix but I did

D R
E W
B R
E E
S
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### Re: Codebusters C

Which way did you write the DREW BREES matrix? With the letters readable horizontally or vertically?
Idk how to put a matrix but I did

D R
E W
B R
E E
S
It's supposed to be
D
R
E
W
B
R
E
E
S
(Z)

and then multiply by the 2x2 matrix keyword
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### Re: Codebusters C

Which way did you write the DREW BREES matrix? With the letters readable horizontally or vertically?
Idk how to put a matrix but I did

D R
E W
B R
E E
S
It's supposed to be
D
R
E
W
B
R
E
E
S
(Z)

and then multiply by the 2x2 matrix keyword
You can't multiply those two matrices. They don't line up. It's supposed to be
the VEAR matrix multiplied by $\begin{vmatrix}D\\R\end{vmatrix}$
and then the VEAR matrix multiplied by $\begin{vmatrix}E\\W\end{vmatrix}$
etc., etc., I believe.

Although annoyingly, it's not evenly split into chunks of 2 so you'd have to insert an extra letter at the end.

Longivitis
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### Re: Codebusters C

Idk how to put a matrix but I did

D R
E W
B R
E E
S
It's supposed to be
D
R
E
W
B
R
E
E
S
(Z)

and then multiply by the 2x2 matrix keyword
You can't multiply those two matrices. They don't line up. It's supposed to be
the VEAR matrix multiplied by $\begin{vmatrix}D\\R\end{vmatrix}$
and then the VEAR matrix multiplied by $\begin{vmatrix}E\\W\end{vmatrix}$
etc., etc., I believe.

Although annoyingly, it's not evenly split into chunks of 2 so you'd have to insert an extra letter at the end.
Yeah, that's what I meant guess I really wasn't clear enough.
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### Re: Codebusters C

It's supposed to be
D
R
E
W
B
R
E
E
S
(Z)

and then multiply by the 2x2 matrix keyword
You can't multiply those two matrices. They don't line up. It's supposed to be
the VEAR matrix multiplied by $\begin{vmatrix}D\\R\end{vmatrix}$
and then the VEAR matrix multiplied by $\begin{vmatrix}E\\W\end{vmatrix}$
etc., etc., I believe.

Although annoyingly, it's not evenly split into chunks of 2 so you'd have to insert an extra letter at the end.
Yeah, that's what I meant guess I really wasn't clear enough.
Yeah, UTF is right, it should be $\begin{vmatrix}D\\R\end{vmatrix}$ $\begin{vmatrix}E\\W\end{vmatrix}$ $\begin{vmatrix}B\\R\end{vmatrix}$ $\begin{vmatrix}E\\E\end{vmatrix}$ $\begin{vmatrix}S\\Z\end{vmatrix}$ multiplied by the encryption key, in whichever orientation they gave it to you, to be clear.
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### Re: Codebusters C

So quick questions. Around how many questions are there on a code busters test at the various levels (regionals, state, nationals)? Also I know I depends on the type of cipher, but what is a good average time per cipher?

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### Re: Codebusters C

So quick questions. Around how many questions are there on a code busters test at the various levels (regionals, state, nationals)? Also I know I depends on the type of cipher, but what is a good average time per cipher?
You can expect ideally 15 questions per test, and a good solve time ranges from like 1 min (a caesar or something) to like 10 mins (no hint patristo?). Again, those times depend completely on what you're comfortable with.
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### Re: Codebusters C

So quick questions. Around how many questions are there on a code busters test at the various levels (regionals, state, nationals)? Also I know I depends on the type of cipher, but what is a good average time per cipher?
You can expect ideally 15 questions per test, and a good solve time ranges from like 1 min (a caesar or something) to like 10 mins (no hint patristo?). Again, those times depend completely on what you're comfortable with.
Agree. An extremely well-rounded person should average 5 minutes/cipher, with patristocrats balancing out stuff like decryption matrix and affine.
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Why can't dinosaurs ski? Because they're dead.

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### Re: Codebusters C

Does anyone have any tricks on how to do xenocrypt without knowing spanish? I feel like there's gotta be a trick somewhere that I'm missing.

Longivitis
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### Re: Codebusters C

Does anyone have any tricks on how to do xenocrypt without knowing spanish? I feel like there's gotta be a trick somewhere that I'm missing.
Well the thing is that E and A are the most frequent letters, but they have relatively the same frequency. It's better to target the two letter words, because there is only so many two letter spanish words. The message itself should not be that difficult, with using spanish words that are similar to the english translation. If you have somewhat decent spanish experience, you can solve them pretty easily, just know the common words and frequencies.

Or get a spanish-speaking person on your team like I did and not worry about that too much.
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